# Is Hisec ganking good for the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 105
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2116 "2021-10-15T09:24:16Z")
The game where someone questions your position and you just refuse to answer? Thats uh… You. But its cool, as long as we both know you arent actually interested in a discussion then Im as happy to not receive any more replies from you as you are not to send any. Right? ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2117 "2021-10-15T09:25:57Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Try to have fun! Blow up a miner today! It’s like those soldiers who used that puppy for target practice in Afghanistan. HEY, puppies can have rabies and bite pretty hard so they are dangerous and needed to be killed so it wouldn’t bite a child and since they were taking its life anyway why not have fun at the same time, right? ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2118 "2021-10-15T09:27:37Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > The game where someone questions your position and you just refuse to answer? **Peuh-lease** ![](https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExc3E1NWFtYXlpdTI5cHZqNzFtMWM3ejVoM3Bua3Z1cXdidHJtenVvZyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/YrBX4JbV97m76TWTu3/giphy.webp "- Find & Share on GIPHY") ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/d/d/edd5a58c97a6565e3f7c97ddc4e8b82254b13e13.webp "As If Eye Roll GIF by MOODMAN - Find & Share on GIPHY") ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2119 "2021-10-15T09:37:35Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > It’s like those soldiers who used that puppy for target practice in Afghanistan. HEY, puppies can have rabies and bite pretty hard so they are dangerous and needed to be killed so it wouldn’t bite a child and since they were taking its life anyway why not have fun at the same time, right? This is what I mean with > taking the moral high ground of refusing to shoot defenseless ships In an RTS like age of empires, warcraft, starcraft, would you refuse to shoot workers because they cannot shoot back? EVE is very similar to the concept of RTS games, where you gather, transport and produce more workers and fighters to kill enemy workers and fighters to eventually destroy the enemy base. With as main difference that in EVE players are one (or multiple) unit(s) that can band together. In a competitive RTS, when given the chance, you should harass, kill or convert enemy gatherers. Who cares that they cannot shoot back? It’s a competitive game, not real life. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2120 "2021-10-15T09:42:06Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > In an RTS like age of empires, warcraft, starcraft, No it’s not. > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Who cares that they cannot shoot back? It’s a competitive game, not real life Humm, I hope you’ve noticed but those are REAL people behind those avatars piloting them ships, they’re not NPC’s. You’re comparing a game like Age of Empires to a multiplier game like EVE? haha… _now_ I understand where you’re coming from even better. That’s sad, man. That’s just sad. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2121 "2021-10-15T09:43:30Z")
It’s a video game. If someone wants to rp as a pirate with no morals blowing up weak miners then what’s the problem? It’s no different from rp’ing as a moral capsuleer who only fights when attacked. It’s all possible and valid in a video game. All play styles are and should be welcome. Making judgements about a players character over how they play a video game is bizarre to say the least. It’s escapism. And fun. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2122 "2021-10-15T09:44:05Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > It’s a video game. If someone wants to rp as a pirate with no morals blowing up weak miners then what’s the problem Hey! Where you been? I missed ya. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2123 "2021-10-15T09:46:07Z")
Oh you know. Here and there ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2124 "2021-10-15T09:49:14Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Oh you know. Here and there You ate breakfast yet? I’m having a huge waffle with myrtles in it and coffee. That’s kickass in the morning. You? Cereals? Croissants? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2125 "2021-10-15T09:51:52Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Humm, I hope you’ve noticed but those are REAL people behind those avatars piloting them ships, they’re not NPC’s. > You’re comparing a game like Age of Empires to a multiplier game like EVE? haha… _now_ I understand where you’re coming from even better. > That’s sad, man. That’s just sad. Yes, I have noticed I am competing against _REAL people_, that’s kind of the whole point of a competitive _multiplayer_ game. It’s not really that interesting to compete against the computer, it gets predictable and boring. By the way, real time strategy games can be played against other players too. Would it be unfair to kill the (defenseless) workers of the enemy player, just because you are playing against a ‘REAL’ person? If no, why would it be unfair in EVE? ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2126 "2021-10-15T09:57:03Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > By the way, real time strategy games can be played against other players too. Would it be unfair to kill the (defenseless) workers of the enemy player, just because you are playing against a ‘REAL’ person? If no, why would it be unfair in EVE? I couldn’t tell you, I never played Age of Empires in a multiplayer setting before, only against the computer. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2127 "2021-10-15T10:00:42Z")
And you keep replying. Fascinating, captain. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2128 "2021-10-15T10:04:10Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > And you keep replying. Fascinating, captain Go play your childish games with someone else, please ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/1/2/8127b0548f88b063ced3f76513eb862d4f84135e.webp "out of here goodbye GIF by Shalita Grant - Find & Share on GIPHY") ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2129 "2021-10-15T10:05:32Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I couldn’t tell you, I never played Age of Empires in a multiplayer setting before, only against the computer. Imagine killing defenseless workers when playing against the computer, but then when you’re competing against a real person. Shouldn’t be that hard? ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2130 "2021-10-15T10:08:52Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Imagine killing defenseless workers when playing against the computer, but then when you’re competing against a real person. Shouldn’t be that hard? I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about me not wanting to blow up unarmed vessels. Can he go pew-pew against me? No So I won’t go pew-pew against him. Does he have a weapon? No So I won’t turn my weapon against him. How has something so simple turned into so many posts?? I’m flabbergasted. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2131 "2021-10-15T10:11:01Z")
How do you know he cant pew pew? Are you always fitting a ship scanner? ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2132 "2021-10-15T10:13:59Z")
I’m still wanting to know if you had breakfast. Cereals? Croissants, Creamy Puffs? > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > How do you know he cant pew pew? Are you always fitting a ship scanner? How do you know anything in EVE? Is it telepathy or magic? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2133 "2021-10-15T10:14:16Z")
> [@Nico\_Christened](#): > > Great points. I’d like to add the cost for high sec aggression used to be more than what is today. This tendency to find some poor sap with a poorly fit mining ship and blowing him to bits while he’s trying to learn the game is toxic to the core–and anything CCP can do to curtail that behavior is overdue. Or yennoe they could fit a tank and watch local. They have a 100% accurate snapshot of anyone who comes in system. What other advantage do you need? > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Not to me. I can’t feel any satisfaction blowing up an unarmed mining vessel but that’s just me. > If I need target practice I’ll do it on a rock with mining lazers… how boring, lol. Sometimes its a battle proc 😃 > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I’m flying an empty non-combat ship that’s not even armed therefore I don’t know what kind of loser would blow me up instead of looking for a target that can fight back… wait… what? There exist such losers? Oh my lord! What kind of loser undocks in a ship that isn’t tanked? > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I wouldn’t. I’d start a convo and ask him about his day, I’d ask him if he’s making any kind of good isk doing what he does, I’d ask him about his fit, if the ship he’s flying is a good ship for the activity he’s doing, I’d ask him about his corporation if he’s in one, I’d get to know him and maybe be friends, may he’d show me a trick a two, maybe I can sell something to him or him to me… you know, I’d be social and reasonable, not act like a bloodthirsty psychopath. What I find disturbing is you think people blowing up space pixels means they are a psychopath. Also, I’ve done all that and then blown them up one the last relic 😃 > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Booohoo… it’s just isk. Seems that I read somewhere in the game chat and on this forum that the sense of community is what makes EVE special. I guess that’s a load of crap, it’s just about the isk, isn’t it? Yes it is. C.R.E.A.M. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I read somewhere that EVE is more than that, or are you saying that the only thing that matters in EVE is blowing up ships and getting isk? The pursuit of which tends to bring all the other factors in. I’m guessing more and more you’re a bittervet. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Yea… a shallow game populated by shallow players who shoot anything that moves. So you admit the miners are shallow. I see the true colors have finally appeared 😃 > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > As I said, again, I wouldn’t blow up an unarmed vessel, I’m not like that. I want a real fight, where the other guy can actually shoot at me. > I was a soldier, I did not shoot the milk man or the postman, I shot other soldiers. Oof. There is a whole bunch of therapy needed behind this post. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I already play other games for building friends in a relaxed environment, I thought EVE was a game where players fought against each other in **combat ships** but I see I was wrong. They do all the time? Did you just miss out on the Great War or > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > No, it’s not irrelevent because **I am playing it** and so my personality and morals are involved. I don’t turn off my humanity just because I play a game. It is. Totally irrelevant. Honestly bro, seek medical help. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Would you go into combat with a Venture? I think not. Yes, I have before. Would you like a fit? Here you go. [Venture, Battle Venture] Damage Control II 1MN Afterburner II Warp Scrambler II Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier 200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S 200mm AutoCannon II, Hail S Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Transverse Bulkhead II Small Transverse Bulkhead II Small Transverse Bulkhead II Hobgoblin II x2 > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > “Oh I don’t care about the money, I just yaddy-yadda…” while they’re ruining their relationship with their brother over 50 bucks. You seem to be confusing a game with real life quite often. That is dangerous. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > It’s like those soldiers who used that puppy for target practice in Afghanistan. HEY, puppies can have rabies and bite pretty hard so they are dangerous and needed to be killed so it wouldn’t bite a child and since they were taking its life anyway why not have fun at the same time, right? Bro, seek help. Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2134 "2021-10-15T10:14:44Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about me not wanting to blow up unarmed vessels. Nothing wrong with not wanting to shoot unarmed vessels. But there is something wrong when you try to take the moral high ground of ‘you wouldn’t do that in real life’ when we’re talking about a _game_. Yes, you can choose who you want to shoot or not. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2136 "2021-10-15T10:20:10Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > How do you know anything in EVE? Is it telepathy or magic? Well in the case of ships. You scan them and see how they are fitted. Otherwise you don’t really know do you? You are just making an assumption. And while with miners you are gonna be correct 95% of the time folk do fit ventures for combat. Hell i know corps that run battle venture fleets for fun every so often. As something different for their members to do. Ultimately its a video game. If you don’t want to engage in some privacy fair enough. But don’t get high and mighty about it with folk that do and imply you are somehow “better” as a result. It’s not cheating, its not wrong……its just valid gameplay. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=104) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=106)