# Is Hisec ganking good for the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 106
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2138 "2021-10-15T10:24:40Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I don’t want to take the moral high ground, I leave that to the Liberal Democrats, Antifa and them snowflakes running around nowadays like chicken without their heads because someone finally told them ‘No’ Let’s leave your countries politics out of it, please. It’s irrelevant to this discussion. But you surely are trying to take the moral high ground, how else are we supposed to interpret your comparison of shooting defenseless miners to: > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > It’s like those soldiers who used that puppy for target practice in Afghanistan. As I said, try not to drag real life values into a _game._ ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2139 "2021-10-15T10:25:52Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > As I said, try not to drag real life values into a _game_ Well, I shouldn’t have used an exemple from real life. I apologize. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2140 "2021-10-15T10:37:25Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I’m sorry if you felt that I’m trying to demonstrate that I was higher than you… do you have an inferiority complex? Because in no way am I above you It’s nothing to do with me. I don’t have a dog in the fight really. But it’s difficult to look at comments like “I don’t know what kind of loser would blow me up instead of looking for a target that can fight back…” as not portraying yourself as above the part of the player base that engage in those activities. Those players are just playing the game the way the game was intended to be played. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2141 "2021-10-15T10:41:15Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > But it’s difficult to look at comments like “I don’t know what kind of loser would blow me up instead of looking for a target that can fight back…” as not portraying yourself as above the part of the player base that engage in those activities. Those players are just playing the game the way the game was intended to be played Yep, you’re right. I shouldn’t have written that either. I apologize. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2142 "2021-10-15T10:43:07Z")
Np. No point in flogging this dead horse anymore then. So hi-sec ganking …………… ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2143 "2021-10-15T10:46:20Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Np. No point in flogging this dead horse anymore then. Why not? > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > So hi-sec ganking …………… > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > My stance is: They can gank all they want, it won’t be me they blow up 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2144 "2021-10-15T10:55:44Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > How has something so simple turned into so many posts?? Folks are just trying to encourage you to _join_ the discussion instead of being an obstacle to it. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2145 "2021-10-15T10:57:18Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > Folks are just trying to encourage you to _join_ the discussion instead of being an obstacle to it. Yea, I obstruct too much. I shouldn’t do that. I apologize. Sorry ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2146 "2021-10-15T11:03:57Z")
I have utterly no idea what you are talking about. Youve gone ridiculously off topic and clearky have no interest in discussing the actual topic ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2147 "2021-10-15T11:09:00Z")
Yeah I went off topic big time. I apologize, sorry. Thankfully Sir Barstorlode will be by soon and clean this thread real good. What fool have I been 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2148 "2021-10-15T11:11:14Z")
Hey its cool. Dont stress about it, we all make mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2149 "2021-10-15T11:15:30Z")
No it’s not cool at all and I am stressing over it. I feel like sh!t now. I don’t think I’ll come back on this forum after today. I feel like digging a deep hole and burying myself in it so much I feel like a fool. I’ll biomass my character and uninstall. Clearly, EVE isn’t for me. I’m too much of an idiot to play this game, I’ll just waste my time on it like an arsehole. I’ll go back to playing Kerbal Space Program. It’s a simpler game for retards like me. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2150 "2021-10-15T11:18:32Z")
The only thing youve done wrong so far is to over react and take things personally. Just have a sit down and a cup of tea and everything will be ok. Nothing thats said on the forums really matters anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2151 "2021-10-15T11:28:25Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > The only thing youve done wrong so far is to over react and take things personally. > > Just have a sit down and a cup of tea and everything will be ok. > > Nothing thats said on the forums really matters anyway I’m not getting into that argument with you just because you’re trying to make me feel better. I know what I feel right now and it’s right on the money. ---
**Author:** ![Erick\_Jakuard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erick_jakuard/32/385393_2.png) [@Erick\_Jakuard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erick_Jakuard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2152 "2021-10-15T12:43:12Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > you know, I’d be social and reasonable, not act like a bloodthirsty psychopath. Retorted with: > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > I can have a great chat with others while murdering them, Wow. I am an American living in Japan. And while I am very far from being a Buddhist Cowboy, as I have as many issues with Japan as my own country, I do appreciate that words like “murder” and “kill” are not thrown about by the Japanese, or myself any longer, so very casually. They don’t even say “I died” or “You died” when it was actually a game character that died. They are very precise about that. Yes, I grew up with people everyday saying, “I will kill you if you xxxxxx”. But living outside that bubble I can see it for the sickness that it is. And when someone says “with others while murdering them” I think there are many people who will look sideways at that person and wonder about them. On the one hand I am glad that people have a video game to channel such malevolance into, because some people sure seem to need it. On the other hand, the promotion of such thoughts, verbage and behaviors is disturbing. Is it good for the game? Is it good for society? Neither question is easy to answer. ---
**Author:** ![Erick\_Jakuard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erick_jakuard/32/385393_2.png) [@Erick\_Jakuard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erick_Jakuard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2153 "2021-10-15T12:46:00Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > It’s a simpler game for retards like me. I think you have spoken well here and I hope you do what is best for you to do. Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2154 "2021-10-15T12:50:17Z")
We’re all immortal capsuleers in this game. A dead clone is merely a setback. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2155 "2021-10-15T12:52:21Z")
> [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > Is it good for the game? Is it good for society? Neither question is easy to answer. You can start a nice thread on that premise but, of course, it would be locked before you posted it. These people don’t seem to be able to think beyond EVE so your experience outside of that bubble wouldn’t be acceptable as a premise for a thread… Maybe in Out of Pod Experience. I wish you good luck and Farewell. I’m gonna linger on this forum for today but it’s my last day here and in the game. I’m not cut out for this mental gymnastics. I should’ve known, too. I always say I’m not intelligent but I’m smart, well, EVE requires a level of intelligence that I don’t have. Take care, Erick. At least I have the comfort to know I’m not the only one who thinks the wrong way for EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Erick\_Jakuard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erick_jakuard/32/385393_2.png) [@Erick\_Jakuard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erick_Jakuard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2156 "2021-10-15T12:55:00Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > We’re all immortal capsuleers in this game. A dead clone is merely a setback. Its a fact I would like to see in a pop up…seriously. Its a nice shield to carry around in this game. Every loss is a loss of time, ISK and maybe pride…but all can be made up for as there is no in-game permanent death. Still…it does not excuse the very real griefing that CAN BE either an accidental or intentional aspect of ganking. Its not always there, but the potential is always there. And that’s problematic…thus why I would approve of such a pop up…to curtail griefing while the game carries on. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2157 "2021-10-15T12:57:25Z")
> [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > Still…it does not excuse the very real griefing that CAN BE either an accidental or intentional aspect of ganking Which can be said about anything any one did ever. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=105) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=107)