# Is Hisec ganking good for the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 107
**Author:** ![Erick\_Jakuard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erick_jakuard/32/385393_2.png) [@Erick\_Jakuard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erick_Jakuard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2158 "2021-10-15T13:02:25Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Ganking doesn’t happen in low sec. The term “ganking” did not start with EVE and it is not unique to EVE. The starter of this thread was quite right to say “Hisec ganking” because the general term “ganking” can well apply to attacks in low sec where the attacker or attackers have a ridiculously huge advantage, especially by virture of numbers but also by surprise. Ganks can happen anywhere, but hisec ganking in EVE has some unique features. What happens in the low sec border gate camps of Frulegur is correctly called “ganking”, and those guys are gankers. ---
**Author:** ![Erick\_Jakuard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erick_jakuard/32/385393_2.png) [@Erick\_Jakuard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erick_Jakuard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2159 "2021-10-15T13:13:59Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Which can be said about anything any one did ever. I can assure you that the last time I ate dinner, brushed my teeth and took a dump had no potential or intent of griefing. I live alone BTW. And if someone felt griefed when I taught a class, bought my groceries, or glanced at them, well that was purely accidental (no intent) and if I had a clue they felt griefed, I would try to assure them otherwise since it wasn’t there. Frankly, I have to wonder about your interactions and perceptions of others that made you type what I quoted. Destroying someone’s property, even if it is in-game, does represent a loss of time…a precious limited item…and I assure you, its real, even when you play a video game. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2160 "2021-10-15T13:17:59Z")
> [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > I am an American living in Japan. Hi, do you happen to know @Ridley_Rohan then? He’s also an American living in Japan, EVE player and avid poster on the forums in _General_ and _Crime&Punishment_… Wait, did Ridley get banned again? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2161 "2021-10-15T13:18:06Z")
there’s a difference between griefing and ganking… it would help if you would differentiate the two. @Gerard_Amatin he’s been active so i don’t think so. @Jim_Halescott is in japan too, i think he’s american. ---
**Author:** ![Erick\_Jakuard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erick_jakuard/32/385393_2.png) [@Erick\_Jakuard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erick_Jakuard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2162 "2021-10-15T13:20:53Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Wait, did Ridley get banned again? I guess you have forgotten. I am Ridley Rohan, Renly Rohan AND Erick Jakuard. And I NEVER tried to hide it, not even when all three liked the same post (rare as that is). Also, I post as no one else. Those who accuse me otherwise simply lack integrity. > [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > there’s a difference between griefing and ganking… it would help if you would differentiate the two. Are you talking to me??? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2164 "2021-10-15T13:22:00Z")
that explains it. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2165 "2021-10-15T13:22:47Z")
I knew Renley and remember you mentioned a third, but I don’t think I ever knew the name. What happened that you’re posting on an alt? ---
**Author:** ![Erick\_Jakuard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erick_jakuard/32/385393_2.png) [@Erick\_Jakuard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erick_Jakuard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2166 "2021-10-15T13:24:20Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > What happened that you’re posting on an alt? The usual but if I went into detail, I would get trouble. > [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > that explains it. In the flurry of posting you may have missed my question. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2167 "2021-10-15T13:26:39Z")
no i saw it… and yes i was talking to you. in EVE, and most games, there is a stark difference and contrast between ganking and griefing… thats why one is illegal in eve and the other isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Erick\_Jakuard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erick_jakuard/32/385393_2.png) [@Erick\_Jakuard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erick_Jakuard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2168 "2021-10-15T13:27:30Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > in EVE, and most games, there is a stark difference and contrast between ganking and griefing Of course there is a difference, and I totally differentiated. I honestly cannot imagine how you could think otherwise. I beg to differ about the “legality” though. How much griefing one can get away with in EVE depends on various factors. But if it was claimed that griefing got more nods of approval here than most other games, I would not doubt it. Just look at this forum of pestilence. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2169 "2021-10-15T13:37:57Z")
> [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > Just look at this forum of pestilence. 💯% 💯% 💯% 💯% 💯% 💯% 💯% 💯% ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2170 "2021-10-15T14:10:02Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > you’re trying to make me feel better. Sorry, Ill try not to next time ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2171 "2021-10-15T14:22:54Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Sorry, Ill try not to next time There won’t be a next time. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2172 "2021-10-15T14:37:28Z")
This is EvE Forums. There’s always a next time. Maybe not you, maybe not me. But for ever until they turn off the server. Amen. And Space Ghost. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2173 "2021-10-15T14:41:38Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Maybe not you Surely not me. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2174 "2021-10-15T14:48:30Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > There’s always a next time. Truth has a certain “ring” to it. ---
**Author:** ![Landeskog\_Salvo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/landeskog_salvo/32/387471_2.png) [@Landeskog\_Salvo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Landeskog_Salvo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2175 "2021-10-15T15:37:40Z")
Now That I think about it more, It would be cool if CCP could develop dual mode ships. Use the miners/haulers as test beds. Offense mode - Minning mode ETC. You don’t have to make the offense mode crazy, just average dps or below to fight back. Maybe this would help get more players into PVP and expose them to combat. Just a thought I had, The goal should be to get miners and haulers like myself to engage during the situation. Or CCP could try providing more interactive escape tools. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2176 "2021-10-15T15:45:32Z")
> [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > Frankly, I have to wonder about your interactions and perceptions of others that made you type what I quoted. Destroying someone’s property, even if it is in-game, does represent a loss of time…a precious limited item…and I assure you, its real, even when you play a video game CCP’s property. The player doesn’t own anything in game. They purely have the rights to its use while they play 🙂 Frankly this discussion is insane. ITS A VIDEO GAME BASED AROUND SPACE CONFLICT. Blowing up other players is kinda the point. You are intentionally conflating intended gameplay with online abuse. The two are very different. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2177 "2021-10-15T15:47:07Z")
> [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > I guess you have forgotten. I am Ridley Rohan, Renly Rohan AND Erick Jakuard. And I NEVER tried to hide it, not even when all three liked the same post (rare as that is). Oh……….well now i understand. Discussion over 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2178 "2021-10-15T16:00:40Z")
> [@Landeskog\_Salvo](#): > > It would be cool if CCP could develop dual mode ships They’ll get around to that soon… in 10 or 20 years. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=106) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=108)