# Is Hisec ganking good for the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 108
**Author:** ![Landeskog\_Salvo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/landeskog_salvo/32/387471_2.png) [@Landeskog\_Salvo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Landeskog_Salvo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2179 "2021-10-15T16:01:18Z")
Haha true, man that would cool ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2180 "2021-10-15T16:25:26Z")
> [@Landeskog\_Salvo](#): > > man that would cool It’s true, would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2181 "2021-10-15T16:48:41Z")
Arbitrators are already dual purpose ships. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2182 "2021-10-15T17:05:59Z")
Obviously a different class ship, but Tactical Destroyers have multiple “modes”. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2183 "2021-10-15T17:32:26Z")
Vexor also. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2184 "2021-10-15T18:19:07Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Yea… a shallow game populated by shallow players who shoot anything that moves. But that describes most games… > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I thought EVE was a game where players fought against each other in **combat ships** but I see I was wrong. You definitely were mistaken. Eve was deliberately designed so that you have more options than fighting someones main fleet. You can choose strategic targets like their industry or logistics. Burn down their homes. You can bait and ambush. Infiltrate, steal and sabotage. Make deals or intimidate. That level of agency is what makes eve so special. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Would you go into combat with a Venture? [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/4/d/04d6bfaf2aa81b26dabff18b6f881993ef771298.jpeg "SOLO Venture PVP eve online") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrWVhRLmuRk) ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2185 "2021-10-15T18:24:18Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > That level of agency is what makes eve so special. Yes, sir. Thank you for the in-depth explanation and the time you took to provide me with it. Have yourself a nice evening and I wish you the best in all your endeavors. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2186 "2021-10-15T18:26:20Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > EVE is more like an RTS in that regard, and would you kill the workers of the enemy faction in an RTS when given the chance? Of course you would, if you want to win, even if those workers cannot fight back. Arh, I see you are the type of player that drops banelings into my SCV line. Shame on you! They are just peaceful workers, you psychopath! ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2187 "2021-10-15T18:38:28Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > would you kill the workers It would be foolish and immoral to “kill the workers”. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2188 "2021-10-15T18:44:48Z")
You seemed to have missed the crux of my argument, because your counterpoint is irrelevant. Would you like to try again, or do you need me to clarify what I was saying? ![No P2W](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/9/e/c9e5bbcb978427c1d2c78ed0bf7e727425ef954f.png) ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2189 "2021-10-15T18:58:25Z")
Intentional misrepresentations made your argument invalid. For instance. If I started off with, “If I could fly” and then listed numerous subsequent actions, those actions would be mute. Like saying, you did a great job BUT you forgot to plug in the toaster… Do you need me to clarify what I’m saying? ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2190 "2021-10-15T19:02:57Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I can’t feel any satisfaction blowing up an unarmed mining vessel Taking a stand for space ecosystem against the uncaring greedy hordes who uncaringly want to strip-mine and pollute pristine space environment is immensely satisfying. The psychology of the responses of the polluting greedy when you prevent them from ravaging the defenseless space environment is fascinating. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2191 "2021-10-15T19:10:05Z")
> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > space ecosystem An ecosystem is a biological community of interacting organisms and their physical environment. IF space is indeed a limitless vacuum…there is no biological community to protect… ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2192 "2021-10-15T19:14:04Z")
> [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > The term “ganking” did not start with EVE and it is not unique to EVE. The starter of this thread was quite right to say “Hisec ganking” because the general term “ganking” can well apply to attacks in low sec where the attacker or attackers have a ridiculously huge advantage, especially by virture of numbers but also by surprise. Ganks can happen anywhere, but hisec ganking in EVE has some unique features. > > What happens in the low sec border gate camps of Frulegur is correctly called “ganking”, and those guys are gankers. No, no it does not and that’s also the crux of this misconception. I’m well aware gank didn’t come from this game. I’ve been playing online since MUDs son 😛 All is PvP but you need to understand the following: High Sec - Ganking Low/Null/WH/Poch - PvP Please learn to EVE, thankee. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I don’t want to take the moral high ground, I leave that to the Liberal Democrats, Antifa and them snowflakes running around nowadays like chicken without their heads because someone finally told them ‘No’ > > I’m sorry if you felt that I trying to demonstrate that I was higher than you… do you have an inferiority complex? Because in no way am I above you. Yet you’re butthurt about space pixels.. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > No it’s not cool at all and I am stressing over it. I feel like sh!t now. > I don’t think I’ll come back on this forum after today. I feel like digging a deep hole and burying myself in it so much I feel like a fool. > I’ll biomass my character and uninstall. Clearly, EVE isn’t for me. I’m too much of an idiot to play this game, I’ll just waste my time on it like an arsehole. > I’ll go back to playing Kerbal Space Program. It’s a simpler game for retards like me. Yea bro, seek help. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I’m not getting into that argument with you just because you’re trying to make me feel better. I know what I feel right now and it’s right on the money. Whew chile. Textbook gas lighting. > [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > On the one hand I am glad that people have a video game to channel such malevolance into, because some people sure seem to need it. On the other hand, the promotion of such thoughts, verbage and behaviors is disturbing. Please. This perspective is ridiculous. And uh, Japan has some of the most violent content in terms of media in the world ROFL. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I wish you good luck and Farewell. I’m gonna linger on this forum for today but it’s my last day here and in the game. I’m not cut out for this mental gymnastics. I should’ve known, too. I always say I’m not intelligent but I’m smart, well, EVE requires a level of intelligence that I don’t have. > Take care, Erick. At least I have the comfort to know I’m not the only one who thinks the wrong way for EVE. LOL. The passive aggressiveness. It only works if we care if you leave bub 😃 You should really seek professional help. > [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > Still…it does not excuse the very real griefing that CAN BE either an accidental or intentional aspect of ganking. Its not always there, but the potential is always there. And that’s problematic…thus why I would approve of such a pop up…to curtail griefing while the game carries on. Thats why block exists no? > [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > Frankly, I have to wonder about your interactions and perceptions of others that made you type what I quoted. Destroying someone’s property, even if it is in-game, does represent a loss of time…a precious limited item…and I assure you, its real, even when you play a video game. Ew. Its a vidya game in which all agree to PvP. Seriously, it blows my mind that people take this stance. > [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > I guess you have forgotten. I am Ridley Rohan, Renly Rohan AND Erick Jakuard. And I NEVER tried to hide it, not even when all three liked the same post (rare as that is). > > Also, I post as no one else. Those who accuse me otherwise simply lack integrity. JFC, you don’t even play bro. > [@Erick\_Jakuard](#): > > The usual but if I went into detail, I would get trouble. In other words he got banned ROFL. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > There won’t be a next time. Cool story bro 😃 > [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > It would be foolish and immoral to “kill the workers”. or a valid war tactic 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2193 "2021-10-15T19:15:02Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > An ecosystem is a biological community of interacting organisms and their physical environment. IF space is indeed a limitless vacuum…there is no biological community to protect… Every biological anything is in space, so your point is a non-starter. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2194 "2021-10-15T19:17:00Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > valid war tactic Have you deployed? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2195 "2021-10-15T19:20:31Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Have you deployed? In EVE? Many times 😃 Oh, did you think we were talking about real life on a vidya game forum? Seek help bro. If you can’t distinguish between reality and fantasy, you got problems. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2196 "2021-10-15T19:23:21Z")
😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 You said…“VALID WAR TACTIC” about a game where you can’t even kill the workers!!! 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 I’ll meet you at YOUR therapist’s office… 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2197 "2021-10-15T19:25:16Z")
Uh. You realize people kill each other’s mining fleets all the time right? And krabbing fleets? This thread is literally about people killing the “workers”. Dude. I’m embarrassed for you. ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2198 "2021-10-15T19:29:18Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > I’m embarrassed for you. Thank God you have been put on this planet to interpret everything for everyone. Thank God! 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 😜 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=107) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=109)