# Is Hisec ganking good for the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/332 "2021-09-18T19:01:23Z")
> [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](#): > > I don’t really understand hi sec miners. So what, you think nullsec miners are more elite? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/333 "2021-09-18T19:01:39Z")
> [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](#): > > If everything ins predictable then hisec gankers are no different from carebears. Well as long as we agree carebears are bad and no one wants gankers to be like carebears, then absolutely lets pour in the chaos. ---
**Author:** ![Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvyn_nightshade/32/455724_2.png) [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marvyn_Nightshade)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/334 "2021-09-18T19:04:41Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > > [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](#): > > > > I don’t really understand hi sec miners. > > So what, you think nullsec miners are more elite? Yes. Doing anything out of high sec is more elite than doing it in hi sec. (But new bros gotta start somewhere.) I play most of my time in low sec, though. Null is starting to become kind of a player controlled version of high sec. Parts of it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/335 "2021-09-18T19:05:02Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > So what, you think nullsec miners are more elite? Entitlement. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/336 "2021-09-18T19:05:33Z")
So if I shoot a miner in nullsec, that’s more elite than shooting a miner in Highsec? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/337 "2021-09-18T19:08:35Z")
Right so it goes ( in order of least leet to most) Pochven–\> Starter Systems—\>high sec —\> null sec—\> low sec ----\> wh. Gotcha ---
**Author:** ![Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvyn_nightshade/32/455724_2.png) [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marvyn_Nightshade)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/338 "2021-09-18T19:09:01Z")
It most certainly is! The player controlled response will be much more unpredictable. You’ll get much more adventure! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/339 "2021-09-18T19:09:41Z")
A Catalyst can kill a Venture in 1-2 shots. How could an “unpredictable” nullsec response make my adventure any more elite than in Highsec? ---
**Author:** ![Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvyn_nightshade/32/455724_2.png) [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marvyn_Nightshade)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/340 "2021-09-18T19:11:00Z")
In the first place, you have to out there into null… I like Ramona’s hierarchy. It sounds about right. (Although I haven’t tried Pochven yet) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/341 "2021-09-18T19:12:06Z")
WHers are the maistro race after all. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/342 "2021-09-18T19:12:17Z")
> [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](#): > > In the first place, I noticed that you did not answer my question. Is that because you suddenly realized that I have an argument you cannot refute? Let me clarify: Highsec = 100% predictable guaranteed destruction of gankship It sounds to me like ganking miners in Highsec is a lot harder than ganking them in nullsec, and I think you know I am right. ---
**Author:** ![Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvyn_nightshade/32/455724_2.png) [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marvyn_Nightshade)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/343 "2021-09-18T19:13:23Z")
100% guarantee isn’t what “risk” means. Risk not guaranteed anything. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/344 "2021-09-18T19:14:12Z")
But if you come on GD you 100% risk getting trolled by a very attractive female character ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/345 "2021-09-18T19:14:22Z")
> [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](#): > > Risk not guaranteed I see, so if I accept a 100% guaranteed penalty, I am actually accepting less risk than someone who does not have this penalty? ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/346 "2021-09-18T19:14:45Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > So if I shoot a miner in nullsec, that’s more elite than shooting a miner in Highsec? Give it a try and find out. Maybe I can even undock in a procurer and go AFK so you don’t have much trouble finding a target. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/347 "2021-09-18T19:15:44Z")
> [@Pan\_Dora1](#): > > Give it a try and find out. I’ve already killed miners in Nullsec and Lowsec. It’s easy mode. I can use a better ship than the Catalyst, and my ship isn’t destroyed afterward. The biggest difficulty I have is remembering that I can just warp away in perfect safety. Oooooo, so risky and elite. ---
**Author:** ![Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvyn_nightshade/32/455724_2.png) [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marvyn_Nightshade)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/348 "2021-09-18T19:19:25Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I see, so if I accept a 100% guaranteed penalty, I am actually accepting less risk than someone who does not have this penalty? If you are using a high SP character, then high sec ganking is killing your security status. If you’re just using a 5 mil sp alpha, or one you subbed for one month and only plan to ever sub for just one month, then you’re only risking a cheap ship. So it depends. Some hisec gankers really are putting something on the line, because if they try to kill a freighter and fail, they’ll have to spend hours and hours ratting to get back their sec status. But if it’s an alpha/ 1 month ever sub, and you go into null: how far do you think you would get? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/349 "2021-09-18T19:20:05Z")
> [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](#): > > Some hisec gankers really are putting something on the line, because if they try to kill a freighter and fail, they’ll have to spend hours and hours ratting to get back their sec status. It has become clear that you don’t know what you are talking about, or even who you are talking to. Best wishes to you! ---
**Author:** ![Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvyn_nightshade/32/455724_2.png) [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marvyn_Nightshade)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/350 "2021-09-18T19:20:25Z")
How would I know who I am talking to… on a forum??? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/351 "2021-09-18T19:21:08Z")
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