# Is Hisec ganking good for the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/62 "2021-09-10T22:58:59Z")
> [@Han\_Zealot](#): > > they love to argue endlessly here No they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/63 "2021-09-10T23:00:36Z")
> [@Fale\_Einn](#): > > No they don’t. Yes they do, lol ---
**Author:** ![Fale\_Einn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fale_einn/32/477432_2.png) [@Fale\_Einn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fale_Einn)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/64 "2021-09-10T23:04:49Z")
It’s not funny and no they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Han\_Zealot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/han_zealot/32/300893_2.png) [@Han\_Zealot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Han_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/65 "2021-09-10T23:05:48Z")
Depends how you define ‘funny’ and ‘do’. But they do. ---
**Author:** ![May\_Q\_Cry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/may_q_cry/32/370362_2.png) [@May\_Q\_Cry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/May_Q_Cry)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/66 "2021-09-11T00:43:07Z")
I really wouldn’t know, I tend to lurk in wormholes instead of spending my time bottom feeding in high sec off people who can’t shoot back. ---
**Author:** ![Tarsas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarsas/32/289693_2.png) [@Tarsas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarsas)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/67 "2021-09-11T00:43:36Z")
Unfortunately, I have to admit that if they did make a PVE server it would break the game, neither server would do well. The EVE Online recipe is Miners, haulers, and other PVE types + pirates, gankers and other criminals = EVE society. But, we will not go quietly. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/68 "2021-09-11T01:12:13Z")
> [@May\_Q\_Cry](#): > > people who can’t shoot back. I’ve never understood this, are carebear guns disabled in Highsec? ---
**Author:** ![Kybereck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kybereck/32/501833_2.png) [@Kybereck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kybereck)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/69 "2021-09-11T03:01:06Z")
Just give freighters an ADC like item ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/70 "2021-09-11T03:28:24Z")
Only if it flags them suspect on activation or reduces cargohold by 100% when fitted. ---
**Author:** ![Kybereck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kybereck/32/501833_2.png) [@Kybereck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kybereck)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/71 "2021-09-11T03:29:26Z")
Nah, freighters have nothing but to wait and die. Keep ganking autopiloting freighters, let active pilots have a counter ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/72 "2021-09-11T03:31:56Z")
Yeah, they can only have a scout or an escort fleet or a web alt or triple bulkheads or not carrying 20bil in cargo, poor them whatever shall they do. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/73 "2021-09-11T03:33:46Z")
> [@Kybereck](#): > > Nah, freighters have nothing but to wait and die. They have the smarts of the pilot and a massive tank. Unfortunately most people only fly their freighter with one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Kybereck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kybereck/32/501833_2.png) [@Kybereck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kybereck)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/74 "2021-09-11T03:33:54Z")
Sorry, scouts do nothing when everything is off grid, escorts do nothing when the fight is over in 10 seconds, give them the capital adc that breaks on one shot. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/75 "2021-09-11T03:34:54Z")
Then your scouts are doing a ■■■■ job. Also invulnerability is even worse than an ADC. You literally want “pres buten escape gankerz.” ---
**Author:** ![Kybereck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kybereck/32/501833_2.png) [@Kybereck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kybereck)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/76 "2021-09-11T03:35:38Z")
Then get another fleet to follow up after you make them blow their ADC, risk/reward is broken with highsec ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/77 "2021-09-11T03:36:35Z")
So a gank group needs 2 fleets, but freighter pilots should be able to just fly around highsec with no effort. That’s definitely a broken view on risk/reward. ---
**Author:** ![Kybereck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kybereck/32/501833_2.png) [@Kybereck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kybereck)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/78 "2021-09-11T03:37:36Z")
Lol, it’s highsec. 100m in catalysts to nuke a 3b freighter is dumb. Any freighter can get ganked, empty or full, full tanked or not, there’s no counter. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/79 "2021-09-11T03:38:01Z")
Except any freigher pilot with half a brain is going to be warping to a station to repair his ADC so you need to keep them constantly pointed during this whole affair and then gank them again with CONCORD on grid. Why should ganking be 3x harder? Reward would be lower if morons didn’t run around with 20b in cargo as well. ---
**Author:** ![Kybereck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kybereck/32/501833_2.png) [@Kybereck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kybereck)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/80 "2021-09-11T03:39:34Z")
Oh no, it’s slightly harder now and it will require effort to do it? Sounds like a good change They deserve to live if they’re paying attention, there’s no way out, or anything they can do but sit and die 🤷‍♂️ It’s dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/81 "2021-09-11T03:39:50Z")
> [@Kybereck](#): > > there’s no counter. No matter how many times it’s explained in the forum the many ways to counter the risk of being ganked, someone else comes along to complain there is no counter. That’s why freighters get ganked. Lack of thought. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=5)