# Is Hisec ganking good for the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 61
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1234 "2021-10-06T04:21:44Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Dang. You took the words out of my mouth sir. And ain’t no one running fancy tactics ganking anymore nor did they ever for _hi sec ganking_ Oh they certainly have - not so much for generic targets or your bread and butter ganking but people have gone to great lengths sometimes to get shiny kills from more canny pilots. > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Cept I’ve survived many ganks. By using all of the above mentioned countermeasures. I _choose_ not to high sec gank. I certainly possess the skills to do so. But according to some in this thread you can’t possibly know what you are talking about or have any useful input unless you are taking part in that activity right here and now 😛 Personally I’ve been involved in the ganking of over a dozen ships which in theory automatically one ups my experience over yours if we go by the logic in this thread so far. ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1235 "2021-10-06T04:23:03Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Cept I’ve survived many gank attempts in high sec. Failed setup, preparation, lack of adequate fittings, wrong analysis of the field, tremors, etc.. you did not succeed in any of them. You just fell on a wrong pseudogank you try to glorify. Know the game. You would never survive a decent gank. Not then, now, or in your dreams. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1236 "2021-10-06T04:29:48Z")
> [@Rroff](#): > > Oh they certainly have - not so much for generic targets or your bread and butter ganking but people have gone to great lengths sometimes to get shiny kills from more canny pilots. When? Cause it sure ain’t happening now. Bro, just admit you have no idea what goes on in the current game. > [@Rroff](#): > > But according to some in this thread you can’t possibly know what you are talking about or have any useful input unless you are taking part in that activity right here and now 😛 > > Personally I’ve been involved in the ganking of over a dozen ships which in theory automatically one ups my experience over yours if we go by the logic in this thread so far. Not really. Your opinion does not equate to fact. You haven’t even proven you’ve ganked anyone. > [@Xucca](#): > > Failed setup, preparation, lack of adequate fittings, wrong analysis of the field, tremors, etc… you did not succeed in any of them. > You just fell on a wrong pseudogank you try to glorify. > Know the game. > > You would never survive a decent gank. Not then, now, or in your dreams. Whew chile, the irony is delicious! What is a “proper” gank to you then? Cause as a target I did a good setup, prepared well, fitted well, read the field correctly and did not shake. Yet I get none of the credit? De faq? Brother, those lead chips must have been _immaculate_. ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1237 "2021-10-06T04:31:27Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Cause as a target I did You did only jump to a fail gank setup. And never done the counterpart. You have no clue. ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1238 "2021-10-06T04:32:16Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Not really. Your opinion does not equate to fact. You haven’t even proven you’ve ganked anyone. Go to zkillboard - Rroff - trophies - get a kill in high sec - there are Paladin and Tengu ganks on there - was some older ones but they aren’t on the killboard any more. Post 2012 I used a different character for high sec stuff as Rroff had the skills for capitals. ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1239 "2021-10-06T04:32:55Z")
> [@Rroff](#): > > there are Paladin and Tengu ganks on there No, not bingo,… TRINGO! ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1240 "2021-10-06T04:36:49Z")
Also, bear in mind, I am going to war for something _I_ don’t even do in game. I literally have no dog in the fight in one sense. In the larger sense tho, this is a fight for the very soul of EVE Online. What Drac and his allies are campaigning for is nothing less than the destruction of what sets EVE apart from other MMOs. Indeed, New World is already being compared to EVE simply because of the politics of the factions. EVE has set a standard by which other MMOs in the same ilk will be judged by, for all its flaws. The day the risk dies, is the day the game dies. What is having a trillion ISK in your wallet for if you can’t use it toward anything more meaningful than simply buying another blingy mod, which won’t be so blingy as the economy tanks because everyone has too much money and too many mods. All trolling and snark aside. Learn to EVE. Learn the game. The learning curve is steep, but mastering it makes the game a much better experience. The meta of this game is what makes it. I’m sad that it seems like gone are the days of sleeper alts implanted in big corps to make big moves. That dude that self destructed the Titan? Legendary. The dude who ran IPOs legitly for a while and then ran the biggest one yet and escaped with bajillion ISK never to be seen again? Legendary. These stories are what make EVE, EVE. I refuse, refuse to live this shallow life ya’ll want simply because you can’t handle getting blapped. Please quit, stop coming to the forums and go play Stardew Valley. Thankee. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1241 "2021-10-06T04:42:05Z")
> [@Rroff](#): > > Go to zkillboard - Rroff - trophies - get a kill in high sec - there are Paladin and Tengu ganks on there - was some older ones but they aren’t on the killboard any more. Post 2012 I used a different character for high sec stuff as Rroff had the skills for capitals. Bro your last kill was 2014. The Paladin gank was 2012. The other ganks was 2011. Literally 10 years ago. You have absolutely no idea of how the actual in game enviroment is now. Other than that, you were a null bear F1 monkey. You have absolutely no weight in any of this debate. Sit down. ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1242 "2021-10-06T04:43:32Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Bro your last kill was 2014. The Paladin gank was 2012. The other ganks was 2011. Literally 10 years ago. You have absolutely no idea of how the actual in game enviroment is now. Other than that, you were a null bear F1 monkey. You have absolutely no weight in any of this debate. Sit down. ROFL… no I was not a null bear F1 monkey… seriously starting to question your level of experience now if that is the take away from my killboard. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork was one of the larger wormhole entities of that time. ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1243 "2021-10-06T04:51:32Z")
There are 130k+ damage ganks in HS. Careful! I have more… so this is just the tip. Know the game. ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1244 "2021-10-06T04:55:29Z")
> [@Xucca](#): > > There are 130k+ damage ganks in HS. How about 230k+… still not convinced? Stay tuned. ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1245 "2021-10-06T04:58:36Z")
> [@Xucca](#): > > How about 230k+… still not convinced? > Stay tuned. Not quite sure what you are saying but any level of damage could happen in theory - my old alliance + friends could easily have put together setups running 300+K alpha if necesary. ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1246 "2021-10-06T04:59:35Z")
> [@Rroff](#): > > my old alliance + friends could easily have put together setups running 300+K alpha if necesary. Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1247 "2021-10-06T05:02:13Z")
Rroff… did u log tricked? Cuz then I’d hate U with all my luv! ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1248 "2021-10-06T05:04:14Z")
Not following you? ---
**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1249 "2021-10-06T05:06:27Z")
Old habits die hard… we did some questionable stuff… like hide los DPS with a log trick… can’t do anymore tho. But it worked against some freightors. ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1250 "2021-10-06T05:07:50Z")
I’ve only done log on stuff against high sec war targets and in wormholes, not for ganks - but I’ve not done ganking as a regular thing. ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1251 "2021-10-06T05:20:57Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Couldnt you say the same about CRT? Its what I just said. > [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Yes, if you go up to a random person on the street and ask them what 0.4 security means, you will get the same question. Just like, if you go up to a random person on the street and ask them what CRT 19 means, and they will ask the same question. Its what I just said. > [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > Well, since your brain seems to be missing a couple lobes, ill explain. This from the guy who repeats what I say and thinks it was his own idea. > [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > a new player who doesnt understand Highsec, wont understand CRT either. That’s obvious from what I said. > [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > And thats the point. No. The point is the term “high security” has given players a false impression that needs to be overcome. And that process has sparked frustration in them and those around them. Its misleading, you know it, but for whatever reason, you are denying it. The rest of your post is just random things tossed out carelessly which serve no purpose but your desire to squirm. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1252 "2021-10-06T05:26:01Z")
I bet you dream about me. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1253 "2021-10-06T05:29:32Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > What Drac and his allies are campaigning for is nothing less than the destruction of what sets EVE apart from other MMOs. Blimey, a player that defines Eve as hisec ganking by excessive multi-boxers, who pick the ship mix by use of a lookup spreadsheet, and who gave up when their unlimited point from bumping behind CONCORD was removed, OK, right…, if you say so. Eve is much more than that. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=60) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=62)