# Is Hisec ganking good for the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1414 "2021-10-07T06:52:21Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > AG is perfectly viable. I just see no reason to engage in it as it doesn’t affect me. And now you moved the goal post from “getting meaningful revenge” to “engaging in general AG”. If your goal here is to ensure you have zero integrity from now to eternity, you are seriously doing a very good job. In fact, its about the only grip you got on integrity left. 😗 > [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Honestly, if you don’t play you shouldn’t be able to post. This is craziness. What’s crazy is trying get us to think that history doesn’t matter, or that the game has changed so much in just a few years. We already determined some current devs don’t even play anymore. Good knowledge doesn’t disappear on someone’s last log out. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1415 "2021-10-07T06:57:39Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > Who are you talking about and to? > > If you have lost your link to the KB, here is a fresh one: [https://zkillboard.com/](https://zkillboard.com/) If he was talking about you, it seems there has been no activity for the past half year. ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1416 "2021-10-07T07:00:06Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > If he was talking about you, it seems there has been no activity for the past half year. Oh my. No kills or deaths for a half year? That settles it, I must have died! 💀 Go to the light Ridley! Go the the light! 👻 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1417 "2021-10-07T07:04:51Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > Oh my. No kills or deaths for a half year? That settles it, I must have died! 💀 It doesn’t have to be the same for everyone, but if you see my character without kills or deaths for half a year you can be sure I’ve been taking a long break from the game. 😋 By the way, did you read up on the system security status page I linked earlier? I kind of was expecting a response, if only an acknowledgement that system security status also matters outside high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1418 "2021-10-07T07:08:36Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > I must have died! That’s a bit melodramatic. …oh it’s you. Carry on I guess. Situation normal. ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1419 "2021-10-07T07:24:57Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > By the way, did you read up on the system security status page I linked earlier? Nope. You too moved the goalposts on the topic at hand. Speaking of hands, talk to mine. 🤚 ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1420 "2021-10-07T07:36:41Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > It doesn’t have to be the same for everyone, but if you see my character without kills or deaths for half a year you can be sure I’ve been taking a long break from the game. Dunno if they’ve stopped it but there was some contract trick people were doing to generate kills for players no longer active - hence the last 6 losses on mine. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1421 "2021-10-07T07:51:50Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > And now you moved the goal post from “getting meaningful revenge” to “engaging in general AG”. If your goal here is to ensure you have zero integrity from now to eternity, you are seriously doing a very good job. In fact, its about the only grip you got on integrity left. 😗 How am I moving anything? Its like you say buzz phrases but don’t exactly know what they mean. Just because I refuse to engage in a playstyle that doesn’t appeal to means it isn’t viable? AG is viable. There are many tactics you could employ. You’d know them if you played and utilized the ways. > [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > What’s crazy is trying get us to think that history doesn’t matter, or that the game has changed so much in just a few years. We already determined some current devs don’t even play anymore. Good knowledge doesn’t disappear on someone’s last log out. Except you no longer play the current game and have no idea of what really happens. So yes, your opinion is meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1422 "2021-10-07T07:56:43Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > Nope. You too moved the goalposts on the topic at hand. Speaking of hands, talk to mine. 🤚 Which goalposts did I move? You asked: > [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > We have been through this. I asked you a question to resolve it, and you claimed you already did and refuse to repeat or point to where. I responded by pointing out where I did post the explanation before, and additionally gave a link to more information relevant to the earlier discussion. How is this ‘moving goalposts’? Also I was hoping to get a more meaningful response than a ‘talk to the hand’, but if that is the best response you have when confronted with information that undermines your earlier idea, then so be it. ---
**Author:** ![Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scootaloo_pirkibo/32/291023_2.png) [@Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scootaloo_Pirkibo)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1423 "2021-10-07T08:12:29Z")
f1 droning is not to be calculated in solo kills but rather on number of points/ships destroyed So using the argument of 3 solo kills : F1 bear is not really appropriate Maybe 2points/kill is closer to F1 droning but still I have plenty of solo kills which are explorers or miners killed that are 1 points… Not glorious kills lol but a kill is a kill … there is the hunt, there s the spotting, there s the takling, and the killing of course. When you do arena that are pretty violent in terms of PvP unless it’s 1vs1 you’ll have no solo kills or very few also And for sure it doesn’t make of you a F1 bot ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1424 "2021-10-07T08:53:26Z")
> [@Rroff](#): > > that the people ganking them were faceless alts where there was close to or actual zero chance for any future interaction You keep saying this. Can you explain it to me. Are you really saying that Gankers have so many many accounts that they never fly a pilot twice in the period the killmail will be active? At one gank a day thats 30 alts. At 4 ganks a day thats over 100 alts. You really think this is where the game is at? What I think you are conveniently forgetting is that alphas cannot be run more than 1 at a time or alongside an omega account. If a ganker is multi boxing all the accounts need to be omega. It’s against the EULA to fly an alpha alongside an omega. the launcher even prevents you from doing it. And before you come back with the straw man argument that some players have found a workaround……just don’t. thats not a mechanics problem thats a terms of service problem and if you believe its happening report it and CCP will ban the accounts. Based on that is it really feasible for a ganker to have so many accounts that in their freighter busting set-up that they can rotate them so players never have an opportunity to activate a 30 day kill right? Possible sure with a hellish amount of disposable income. However vey unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1425 "2021-10-07T09:03:28Z")
> [@Rroff](#): > > He specifically said “null bear F1 monkey” - there is literally zero evidence of that on my killboard > **[Myrmidon | Suntzu88 | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/18031823/)** > > Suntzu88 (Grey Lensmen) lost their Myrmidon in BWF-ZZ (Geminate). Final Blow by Korenchkin (The Xenodus Initiative.) flying in a Purifier. Total Value: 93,326,435.85 ISK > **[Vagabond | Zlaiz | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/20274862/)** > > Zlaiz (Cutting Edge Incorporated) lost their Vagabond in WH-JCA (Tribute). Final Blow by Bei ArtJay (The Galactic Collective) flying in a Wolf. Total Value: 143,184,760.89 ISK You certainly appear to have more F1 nullbear activity, than Highsec ganking. In fact, although you claim to have done literally DOZENS of ganks, your killboard only shows 8 kills in Highsec (at least one of which appears to have been an antiganking failure). This doesn’t lend credence to any opinions you might have about Highsec, considering your most recent experience was a decade ago. ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1426 "2021-10-07T10:47:03Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Which goalposts did I move? Not interested. So stop asking. ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1427 "2021-10-07T10:48:24Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > How am I moving anything? Its like you say buzz phrases but don’t exactly know what they mean. Goal…posts… not…anything. Goal…posts. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1428 "2021-10-07T10:50:37Z")
It sounds like Ridley doesn’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1429 "2021-10-07T11:01:17Z")
Sure he doesn’t know and is willing to prove it. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1430 "2021-10-07T11:08:13Z")
I bet he just doesn’t want to debate with any of us, even though he comes here everyday and posts endlessly without actually playing the game. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1431 "2021-10-07T11:09:20Z")
Maybe he just needs a hug. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1432 "2021-10-07T11:09:44Z")
Ridley Renly, do you want a hug? Or a new tinfoil hat? ---
**Author:** ![Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scootaloo_pirkibo/32/291023_2.png) [@Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scootaloo_Pirkibo)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1433 "2021-10-07T11:37:14Z")
Lol pfff because you have few kills in nullsec in a fleet it makes of you a F1 monkey ? Be honest [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=69) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=71)