# Is Hisec ganking good for the game?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1634 "2021-10-10T14:43:04Z")

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Pan Dora, it isn’t your command of English that confuses me; it is the way your replies emerge like whack-a-mole heads, to be nailed only if one can catch them in time.

I have the _impression_ that some of your replies either do not really address the comment to which you’re responding, or are attempts at humour or sarcasm, which fall flat.

Either way, I’m a good deal perplexed!

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**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1635 "2021-10-10T14:55:04Z")

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> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#):
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> Either way, I’m a good deal perplexed!

Now I’m wondering if you are genuinely curious about the motivations of my forum persona or just patronising me.

Don’t get me wrong. I gladly welcome constructive criticism if that’s your intention. However, I’d rather prefer it sent in private.

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1636 "2021-10-10T14:59:36Z")

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Not sure how you came up with either of those. Neither are true.

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1637 "2021-10-10T15:05:27Z")

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I don’t think you understand how I meant it - I was illustrating the ridiculousness of the way some are using the logic by turning it around.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1638 "2021-10-10T15:31:58Z")

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Yeah you either both know what you are talking about or neither of you do when it comes to a thing neither of you have allegedly experienced.

Its easy enough to follow.

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1639 "2021-10-10T15:53:59Z")

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And I was highlighting the absurdity of it while having a little poke back at Gix - I have little actual knowledge of the extent of their experiences in respect to ganking in the game but apparently that kind of baseless accusation goes around here.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Jacques\_Cousteau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_jacques_cousteau/32/291393_2.png) [@Captain\_Jacques\_Cousteau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_Jacques_Cousteau)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1640 "2021-10-10T16:04:17Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> You need to think about the destroyer -25% ROF being removed that enabled such one shots six months previously, so think again.
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> In any case there are some mining ships that you can gank solo in 1.0 systems

Was not talking about that. Talking about those days of the solo tornado and the previous days of the solo arty apoc before that one shotting exhumers in any space.

In the same timeperiod you did have those destroyers like the catalyst where you could solo down 3 macks in an ice belt in 0.5 before concord when grouped together or if you toss in the boomerang method before it got shutdown (concord lock you in place on aggro vs being able to warp around with concord before)

Glorious days long gone… CCP ruining the game!

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1641 "2021-10-10T16:57:45Z")

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‘Constructive criticism’? What is it? Am I obliged by some social or other convention to indulge in it? I think not.

If I criticise, I record my disappointment and try to nail what it is about an issue which causes me to dislike it.

I do all this in the public forum because your comments were posted there. I would only message you privately if I felt the situation warranted it.

As for your uncertainty about my being ‘patronising’ or ‘curious about my forum persona’ - it’s a fine example of what I’m talking about. Your English is perfectly correct; but what on earth do you mean about your ‘forum persona’?

Are you role-playing a flip-flop Forum-Troll? You had me fooled!

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**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1642 "2021-10-10T17:22:39Z")

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Now that you clarified, seems we reached an impasse there. You still feel the need to reply to my comments while I don’t feel the need to take your replies in consideration (other than the mere acknowledgement you took the time to formulate it)  
Best regards.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1643 "2021-10-10T21:46:59Z")

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I guess you forgot when you mocked him for not ganking then.

I see they are baseless only when directed at you.

Interesting.

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1644 "2021-10-11T01:16:50Z")

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I was illustrating a point and having a bit of a poke - if you go back up the conversation a bit I commented that it was the kind of logic that seems to pass around here…

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1645 "2021-10-11T02:03:02Z")

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> [@Pan\_Dora1](#):
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> Aiko, you don’t look impressively brave for not using a lifejacket if you stay in the shallow side of the pool.

Lets not make like peeps in null are fearless. Blackout made them all dock up except for a few ROFL.

> [@Rroff](#):
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> I was illustrating a point and having a bit of a poke - if you go back up the conversation a bit I commented that it was the kind of logic that seems to pass around here…

I can tell by the flavor of your posts that Aiko has essentially neutered you.

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1646 "2021-10-11T02:04:46Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> I can tell by the flavor of your posts that Aiko has essentially neutered you.

You do like making assumptions and running your mouth.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1647 "2021-10-11T02:57:14Z")

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> [@Rroff](#):
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> You do like making assumptions and running your mouth.

Heh. It isn’t an assumption. You can clearly tell she cut you to the quick.

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1648 "2021-10-11T03:00:09Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Heh. It isn’t an assumption. You can clearly tell she cut you to the quick.

Just a fantasy on your part.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1649 "2021-10-11T06:53:37Z")

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Repeating your statement doesnt change what we both agreed on previously, that what applies to him must also apply to you.

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1650 "2021-10-11T07:05:39Z")

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Refer back to my post here: [Is Hisec ganking good for the game? - #1232 by Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1232) I’m just poking him a bit with the same asinine logic some are banding about in this thread - my comment was largely flippant while having a bit of a poke at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1651 "2021-10-11T07:08:10Z")

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> [@Rroff](#):
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> I’m just poking him a bit with the same asinine logic some are banding about in this thread - my comment was largely flippant while having a bit of a poke at the same time.

So you were trolling.

Because other people (you believe) were trolling you.

I see.

Well if you could point put when youre trolling and when you are wanting to have a proper discussion, that might make things easier.

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1652 "2021-10-11T07:13:11Z")

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Come complain to me about trolling when the thread isn’t 75% full of people throwing childish insults, largely at me, and other playground level behaviour.

Albeit I’ve not reported any of it because I can stand on my own two feet but it looks thoroughly unprofessional on the part of CCP and the moderators it has been allowed to go on so long… to the point it looks like certain characters get a free pass.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1653 "2021-10-11T07:18:14Z")

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Then dont stoop to their level and perhaps you might have grounds to hold a moral high ground.

If you decided to do what you object to, you are saying its ok to do it.

Thats the nice way of saying it tbh.

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