# Is Hisec ganking good for the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 83
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1674 "2021-10-11T08:05:27Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Im so confused. Are you drinking ? No - I intentionally used a literal take on your post to make a point - I wasn’t telling you to take your own advice. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1675 "2021-10-11T08:05:30Z")
Also, I’ve done more than Ridley, Drac or Rroff have ever done in the history of anti ganking. I’ve solved the gank issue in Uedama. And even for roaming fleets in one sense. You have to be actively playing. You need to be watching local and d-scan. But there is a way. It took about a week of watching Uedama. I’ve solved ganking. You’re welcome 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1676 "2021-10-11T08:10:07Z")
I’m not anti-gank. I’m generally pro-ganking I just think Eve is at its best when there is a degree of persistence to cause and effect - if I relieve someone of their ship I fully expect them to try and return the favour and vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1677 "2021-10-11T08:13:22Z")
> [@Rroff](#): > > I intentionally used a literal take on your post to make a point Ok. You should just make the point in a comprehensible way next time. Because this: > [@Rroff](#): > > The too subtle comment being aimed at the way I intentionally played dense with the way you meant the post. This explains nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1678 "2021-10-11T08:17:47Z")
And making it in a comprehensible way would have got any better quality of reply? I don’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1679 "2021-10-11T08:19:23Z")
Yes, it would have been understandable so Id be answering it instead of asking what you are talking about. You get what you give, Rrolf. Its always been the case here. ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1680 "2021-10-11T08:29:36Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > You get what you give, Rrolf. Its always been the case here. Vice versa I give what I get, I made a perfectly reasonable observation and got belittling posts and people deliberately misrepresenting my point in return. Same a long time back when I demonstrated just how overpowered the “skynet” technique with supercarrier fighters was and had weeks of people accusing me of wanting to keep it in the game and abuse it based on picking on key words in my post rather than actually understand what I was saying. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1681 "2021-10-11T08:31:51Z")
> [@Rroff](#): > > I made a perfectly reasonable observation and got belittling posts Yeah see the core of the issue really is that either; You made belittling posts and got that in return, or made a reasonable observation and got some you didnt like in return. I get that you cant accept any liability on your part, which is why there is not chance of any kind of rational discussion. You dont really know what diplomacy is. ---
**Author:** ![Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scootaloo_pirkibo/32/291023_2.png) [@Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scootaloo_Pirkibo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1682 "2021-10-11T08:34:32Z")
If people don’t understand you, maybe you have a communication problem ? I have to admit, maybe it s because my English is not my native language, often I don’t understand what you are saying ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1683 "2021-10-11T08:34:35Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Yeah see the core of the issue really is that either; > > You made belittling posts and got that in return, or made a reasonable observation and got some you didnt like in return. > > I get that you cant accept any liability on your part, which is why there is not chance of any kind of rational discussion. > > You dont really know what diplomacy is. Have a look in the old forums - I had plenty of rational discussions with reasonable people… my posting tends to mirror the quality I’m faced with. ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1684 "2021-10-11T08:37:14Z")
> [@Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](#): > > If people don’t understand you, maybe you have a communication problem ? > > I have to admit, maybe it s because my English is not my native language, often I don’t understand what you are saying Maybe - but the reasonable thing to do if you don’t understand what someone is saying is to ask questions of them not use it to try and belittle them. I’m not always the clearest I know - for _reasons_ I missed a few years of foundation English lessons - but it is all there for those who make the effort. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1685 "2021-10-11T08:37:50Z")
> [@Rroff](#): > > my posting tends to mirror the quality I’m faced with. Perhaps, but instead of being the mirror, why not try to be the pretty face? ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1686 "2021-10-11T08:38:38Z")
Because that isn’t who I am. I save my efforts for those who make an effort with me. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1687 "2021-10-11T08:39:30Z")
Thats one of the problems with the world. No one wants to be the first person to reach out the hand instead of the fist. Its sad. ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1688 "2021-10-11T08:41:40Z")
I always go in with an open hand. You remind me of an ex - always trying to turn it around on me - I guess some people are just wired that way. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1689 "2021-10-11T08:44:05Z")
Wow lol. You are just the eternal victim that everyone attacks, arent you? It must be hard being so perfect while all around you are such meanies. I literally attempt to see if theres a hope of a civilised level of discussion and all you see is an attack. Thats genuinely depressing, man. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1690 "2021-10-11T08:48:42Z")
ROFL, I guess talking about how to pull CONCORD just before the gankers gank in AG chat is winning, let’s see you do it and I wonder if you will note the obvious counter. This should be funny… ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1691 "2021-10-11T08:48:50Z")
Oh it is it is terribly difficult. On a more serious note I’m quite happy to have a civilised level of discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1692 "2021-10-11T08:52:14Z")
The only direct methods unwieldy hauling wise is to play the odds when several potential targets go through or a sacrificial bait (but then if you have multiple accounts there are better approaches). ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1693 "2021-10-11T08:53:27Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > ROFL, I guess talking about how to pull CONCORD just before the gankers gank in AG chat is winning, let’s see you do it and I wonder if you will note the obvious counter. This should be funny… Of course there’s a counter. But while their employing the counter, it also opens up a window of time to again jump thru. No worries man. Karrde and I were actually out there in Uedama, experimenting and seeing how it works. It legit solves ganking. Its even more a problem for roaming gank fleets. But it requires you to be watching local and d-scan and actively playing, as you should be. Yennoe, what I find funny is you out here trying to be a mod in the AG channel and yet you ain’t even undocking or actually putting anything on the line for these pilots. Meanwhile I’m out there, spending time and ISK helping out, mainly due to boredom and something to do. And then I solved ganking. Really, what have you done since re-subbing but krab in null and talk smack on your docked up alt? ROFL. And you think you out here as a paragon of AG? Please. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=82) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=84)