# Is Hisec ganking good for the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 84
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1694 "2021-10-11T08:54:14Z")
> [@Rroff](#): > > The only direct methods unwieldy hauling wise is to play the odds when several potential targets go through or a sacrificial bait (but then if you have multiple accounts there are better approaches). Or yennoe work together with people but then again you haven’t been in game in 7 years so.. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1695 "2021-10-11T08:54:47Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > It legit solves ganking. You believe that, OK… ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1696 "2021-10-11T08:55:23Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You believe that, OK… It does. And if you really wanna do something, war dec the gank corps and burn their structures in Uedama 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1697 "2021-10-11T08:57:37Z")
You might get away with that once but it isn’t something you can regularly rely on. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1698 "2021-10-11T08:59:40Z")
You are going to be disappointed with that, though it is good to actually try things like this. Not my TZ. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1699 "2021-10-11T09:08:47Z")
Have I entered some kind of time warp where the same threads keep appearing again and again? > [@Delta\_Veyron](#): > > When the catalysts who maybe are -10 sec status are shooting the freighter, what can the freighter pilot do in return? Nothing. There are actually a few things you can do, these are; 1, Get a friend to scout ahead and report any suspicious groups of destroyers or Macherials (I’m not sure if that’s still the bumping ship). If known gankers are on the other side of gate. DO NOT JUMP. 2, Split up your loads, maybe try using a cloaky hauler and keep the value of haulage low. 3, Use black Frog/Red Frog to move your stuff wherever you need as they have a high success rate with deliveries. Yes you’re right it is too easy for gankers to kill a freighter, but it is also easy to employ the tactics above. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1700 "2021-10-11T09:12:02Z")
> [@Rroff](#): > > You might get away with that once but it isn’t something you can regularly rely on. LOL you can literally keep doing it 😃 The gankers proved it too. You’d know if you were actually playing. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > You are going to be disappointed with that, though it is good to actually try things like this. > > Not my TZ. And yet if the tactic is properly employed, it frees up a huge window of time. Again, I find it funny that you claim you do all this stuff for AG yet you’re docked up and krabbing. I’m actually out there doing things. Bear in mind I’m not even a dedicated AG, just bored. Imagine if peeps were as dedicated to AGing as ganking 😃 I mean I’ve solved ganking in a week bruv. If they don’t use the tactic, that’s on them but it is literally available for all. ---
**Author:** ![Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scootaloo_pirkibo/32/291023_2.png) [@Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scootaloo_Pirkibo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1701 "2021-10-11T09:14:56Z")
I agree with you But the thing is, opposed to gankers, you don’t make money out of this activity Unless you find a way to monetise the activity somehow (like an insurance scheme, or mercenary or whatever) But there’s no real business scheme behind that, am I wrong ? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1702 "2021-10-11T09:18:43Z")
If haulers were smart they’d fund AG activities. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1703 "2021-10-11T09:20:40Z")
Another thing you can solve by declaring victory on the forums. EDIT and declaring victory in the AG chat channel too, missed that, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1704 "2021-10-11T09:23:39Z")
I declared it in game too 😃 More than you’ve done since coming back for sure. I find it so funny you and Rroff are up in here getting rroffed but aren’t actually engaged in any kind of meaningful way. Hm. If Aiko is the saviorette of High Sec, am I the Messiah of EVEing? Maybe… maybe… ---
**Author:** ![Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scootaloo_pirkibo/32/291023_2.png) [@Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scootaloo_Pirkibo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1705 "2021-10-11T10:01:03Z")
Let’s suppose I ask for a AG activity. How would you insure the service and how much would you ask ? It’s too easy to say it’s the hauler that is not smart by not funding AG activity, but you maybe because the service infrastructure does not exist, or if it does, it s not well known sufficiently ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1706 "2021-10-11T10:02:04Z")
I dunno man, I’m not an AG. But if I was a hauling or indy corp, I’d def find some mercs to do some work. Esp actively guarding when we haul. ---
**Author:** ![Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scootaloo_pirkibo/32/291023_2.png) [@Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scootaloo_Pirkibo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1707 "2021-10-11T10:07:25Z")
Yep agreed ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1708 "2021-10-11T10:07:32Z")
Actually Ive been considering matching all my historical donations isk for isk with a donation to Gitnasty Red’s team. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1709 "2021-10-11T10:56:02Z")
> [@Scootaloo\_Pirkibo](#): > > Let’s suppose I ask for a AG activity. How would you insure the service and how much would you ask ? I’d create a gank fleet to drum up business and then charge just a little bit more than the gank costs. Sliding cost based on hauler type. Few million for T1 haulers and up from there. Save almost every ship and look great, while pocketing a bit of ISK every single gank attempt. I’d be like the mythical antivirus company that writes viruses to keep business coming in. Except it’d be more solid than a myth. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1710 "2021-10-11T11:03:49Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > In Highsec, CONCORD, faction police, and gate guns will defend the target - so that’s why Highsec ganking is elite PvP. Oh shut up. It’s not elite, it’s primary school level stuff as long as you know how to ■■■■■■■ count. Concord timers per system and do the most basic math for dps vs tank, and tether aggro on citadels. That’s it. It’s all just utterly basic gameplay, and strictly nothing elite about it. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > In Nullsec, your ships don’t automatically explode after a few seconds. You can use a more powerful ship, and warp away afterwards. That’s easy mode. In nullsec, the targets tend to move a little bit more tactically than just standing still, shoot back, and actively hunt you down … You are an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1711 "2021-10-11T11:08:52Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Oh shut up. > [@Verlyn](#): > > as long as you know how to ■■■■■■■ count. > [@Verlyn](#): > > You are an idiot. The Mirror never lies:- > [@Verlyn](#): > > it’s primary school level stuff ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1712 "2021-10-11T11:55:54Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > It’s all just utterly basic If ganking is easy, why aren’t you making billions of isk ganking expensive battleships, overstuffed haulers, and blingy Mackinaws? Why not make all that insane easy isk? I know the answer. Ganking is harder than you say, and you can’t do it. > [@Verlyn](#): > > In nullsec, the targets tend to move a little bit more tactically Ships in Highsec move as well as in nullsec, with the exception of gankers, who are restricted by faction police. This gives the advantage to the target, and gankers require a degree of precision and skill exceeding that of a nullsec blob. Nullbears move around, fit expensive modules, use bigger ships, bubble targets. and warp away - gankers are elite, because they don’t. Gankers kill the exact same targets, except they do it within the constraints imposed by CONCORD. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1713 "2021-10-11T12:15:56Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > In nullsec, the targets tend to move a little bit more tactically than just standing still So… Ganking is easy in HS because the targets dont do anything? Sounds like a them problem. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=83) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=85)