# Is Hisec ganking good for the game?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1976 "2021-10-13T19:46:25Z")

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Gguyffghff.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1977 "2021-10-13T19:51:19Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I have been in contact with a lot of people who have been ganked and who have opposed ganking and I can count on one hand the number of people who wanted to end ganking in hisec.

Oh? Who? Drop names. Considering you’ve barely undocked and rarely talk in the AG channels. Meanwhile I’ve been out there in Uedama and solved ganking so.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> persistent personal attacks directed me and more importantly the misinformation on what I say when I am merely looking at balancing.

Nah bro. Its sophistry. You know what one nerf will lead to. Your “balancing” is nerfing. Simply hidden behind pretense and sham. I still find it chortle worthy that Aiko bullied you into re-subbing. I mean at least there’s that considering it gives you a leg to stand on, unlike your bro Rroff.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> it also includes the concept that the way I post hurts their feelings.

Bro you couldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings 😃 Man. I really feel a lot of pity for you and Rroff. It’s almost like you’re the same person..

> [@Nico\_Christened](#):
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> Ganker mentality isn’t something we really need to overthink. It’s about the lawlz and griefing other players to most of them moreover anything else.

Uh thats the weekend warrior gankers. Serious gankers are making serious ISK. But you’d know that if you’d actually do some research. And it isn’t just freighter kills. Do you realize how much loot drops from a gila abyss runner?

> [@Etch\_Masuka](#):
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> But what they can do is call for nerf after nerf after nerf which cumulatively either make ganking so difficult the play style erodes…….or ganking is portrayed as such a negative thing in the game a discussion about stopping it gets traction.

Very true and it is exactly what is happening.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Objective to create the need for ganking HQ’s which are more important than just perches and are worth attacking to interdict their efforts.

If you ever undocked and actually went into Uedama, you’d see its filled with structures owned by gankers.

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Since you mentioned it, we can only assume that you believe there is some SIGNIFICANT group, which is ganking a SIGNIFICANT amount, and yet they aren’t uploading SIGNIFICANT killmails. Who are these people? Where are they?

Whew chile the gas lighting. Thats what you literally alluded to.

> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> she takes pleasure at being obnoxious and starting and contributing to the lousy atmosphere of this forum.

Just say you got a thin skin and keep it moving. Online games def aren’t for you 😃

> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> There’s no doubt that there is good humor in some of her posts but it is ruined when she treats others as if it would be a privilege for them to lick her boots. I mean, who the hell does she think she is? She’s NO princess, there is NO King and Queen Danuja and no one can point to a country under the Danuja dynasty, ok?

Oof, the embarrassment I feel for you.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Something needs to be done about loot scooping through worthless ships, but it is truly a difficult one.

So now you want to nerf this? Ridiculous. How do you define a ship as “worthless”? It takes time and materials to build a condor. Why can’t the condor loot? Its ok bruv, it just proving the one nerf slippery slope agenda you have. And its even spidering out to things beyond ganking, as we all knew it would.

> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> That sounds like the end of a political speech whose speaker is fear mongering.

Nah, probably just peeps who’ve seen other games they loved nerfed into oblivion cause other peeps can’t handle.

> [@Rroff](#):
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> (Also much harder for the gankers to counter than things like attempts to manipulate CONCORD’s response - which any experienced ganker will have seen before and be perfectly capable of adjusting for).

I love how you passive aggressively throw this in cause of me 😃 Cept it does work. You’d know if you played.

> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> If Aiko really was “her royalness regent imperatrix” something-or-another then she would have the power that goes with that over-inflated title but what power does she really hold? Zero. Nix. Nada.

Uh well I seent her almost a bill in donations in about 2 hours. Thats pretty dang powerful.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1978 "2021-10-13T19:53:15Z")

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1979 "2021-10-13T19:53:26Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> I love how you passive aggressively throw this in cause of me 😃 Cept it does work. You’d know if you played.

But if I had to play that have any idea about anything - how would I know that was what you were doing in game?

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1980 "2021-10-13T19:55:32Z")

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> [@Rroff](#):
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> But if I had to play that have any idea about anything - how would I know that was what you were doing in game?

Cause I literally posted about it here… which is the only way you’d know 😃 Unless you’re admitting Drac is your alt. Oof. Slipped up finally huh?

Yennoe, as time goes on you are clearly not able to keep track if you are on Rroff or Drac. The gas lighting remains the same tho.

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1981 "2021-10-13T19:56:54Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Cause I literally posted about it here… which is the only way you’d know 😃 Unless you’re admitting Drac is your alt. Oof. Slipped up finally huh?
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> Yennoe, as time goes on you are clearly not able to keep track if you are on Rroff or Drac. The gas lighting remains the same tho.

Where? you made some vague brags about beating gankers.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1982 "2021-10-13T19:57:38Z")

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> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> she’s just a player who rubs elbows with members of the CSM, period.

Lol whut

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**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1983 "2021-10-13T19:58:21Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Uh well I seent her almost a bill in donations in about 2 hours. Thats pretty dang powerful.

That’s not power, it’s only just you doing what you do best: lick boots.

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**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1984 "2021-10-13T20:02:01Z")

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Ghuyffgh.

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**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1985 "2021-10-13T20:04:17Z")

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Fghjutfghy.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1986 "2021-10-13T20:04:58Z")

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Which CSM members?

First Id heard of it

If this is true (depending who it is) this changes everything!

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1987 "2021-10-13T20:06:32Z")

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> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> That’s not power, it’s only just you doing what you do best: lick boots.

Ah, but he didn’t lick your boots, or my boots, or Ramona’s, etc. He licked Aiko’s. He isn’t the only one that does so.

So regardless of whether you think Gix is a boot licker, that many players lick her boots is suggestive that she does have power.

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**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1988 "2021-10-13T20:13:35Z")

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Fghhv.

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**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1989 "2021-10-13T20:15:10Z")

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Fhjutfgjtr

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1990 "2021-10-13T20:15:22Z")

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> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> > Lol whut
> 
> You heard me Ramona. Yes… rubbing elbows with CSM members. You know about that.

Kellie. Serious now.

If you knew your EVE history, you’d know that there is zero possibility of what you’re suggesting.

You’ll get no history lesson from me, but suffice it to say that anyone blessed by James 315 in the pursuance of those activities beloved of gankers is most unlikely to seek out CSM members as confidants.

At least, as that august group is currently constituted.

You really should, you know, _calm down_.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1991 "2021-10-13T20:16:32Z")

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_narrows eyes_

My worst enemy?

The man who murdered my father?

The man who is wrong about most things ever (like how a better looking game is a better game)?

I hope you have proof because this sounds like bait.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1992 "2021-10-13T20:17:12Z")

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> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> …leader of an army of boolickers and that’s not power, that’s charisma… barely.

Leadership is one of the established forms of power.

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**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1993 "2021-10-13T20:17:29Z")

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Fgjutdvhh

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1994 "2021-10-13T20:18:23Z")

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> [@Rroff](#):
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> Where? you made some vague brags about beating gankers.

Heh the gas lighting makes me chuckle. Also its good you’re admitting you’re Drac’s krab alt.

> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> That’s not power, it’s only just you doing what you do best: lick boots.

What lick the truth? Also I’m far from an Aiko worshipper. However, game respects game ya feel? Bear in mind, I’m not even a high sec ganker. In fact, I have actively AGed and actually solved ganking in Uedama.

She ganks, RPs and gets paid on the regular to do so. She is playing the game as intended. Creating content AND memories for peeps.

> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> Ah, but he didn’t lick your boots, or my boots, or Ramona’s, etc. He licked Aiko’s. He isn’t the only one that does so.

It def ain’t my kink 😃 However game respects game. She is basiclally a high sec pirate who ransoms essentially. As a low sec pirate who believes in ransom, I must give her congrats.

> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> You may have a point but just because some bootlickers decide to surrender to her doesn’t make her anything more than the leader of an army of boolickers and that’s not power, that’s charisma… barely.

You realize I’m not actually one of her followers right? Trust me. if you were in her in game channel, you’d see true simping LOL. Cept it has to be acknowledged as power, regardless of your feelings.

> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> I’m totally calm. I’m watching a debate on YouTube while smoking a cigar and drinking cola as I type this.

You’re so cool bro. So cool.

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**Author:** ![Rroff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rroff/32/509119_2.png) [@Rroff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rroff)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/1995 "2021-10-13T20:18:30Z")

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> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#):
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> I’m totally calm. I’m watching a debate on YouTube while smoking a cigar and drinking cola as I type this.

I’m disappointed it is not a whiskey.

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