# Is it a PvP game again? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 7, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041 "2023-10-07T13:25:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/1 "2023-10-07T13:25:36Z")
Has the game continued down the path of instanced PvP and hand holding over the last year or two? I’m getting the itch again, but I feel like I already know what it’ll be like. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_BeerMonster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_beermonster/32/495729_2.png) [@Captain\_BeerMonster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_BeerMonster)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/2 "2023-10-07T14:26:48Z")
The Abyssal Proving Grounds are only done during special events. They are not that popular anymore either even when they are on. The game overall is in a much healthier place than it was previously with regards to pvp. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/3 "2023-10-07T14:52:42Z")
Yah the stopped the proving grounds a while back lol. Guess it didn’t really take off. The public PVP fleets like SF is going great OP. Would really recommend their roams. ---
**Author:** ![Nicen\_Jehr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicen_jehr/32/388048_2.png) [@Nicen\_Jehr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicen_Jehr)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/4 "2023-10-07T19:28:36Z")
> [@NPSI.ROCKS](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npsi-rocks/420406): > > We’ve been live with Version 2 of the npsi.rocks website and calendar for a few months now, and it suddenly dawned on me that i had not linked it here as a “new thread”… so here goes… Participating in NPSI fleets from anywhere around the world is now easier than ever before! Simply get online at the date and time of your chosen event and follow the steps in the listing. Make sure to spread the word to friends near and far. These NPSI fleets are open to all pilots, regardless of corporation… ---
**Author:** ![Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syeed_ameer_ali/32/411549_2.png) [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syeed_Ameer_Ali)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/5 "2023-10-08T02:33:58Z")
I still come back from time to time to PvP, and always have a good time. I hardly noticed that the instanced stuff existed. Occasionally there were forum posts that read like “CCP needs to fix the PvP arenas! They are broken! The players that are good at PvP always win! This is totally unfair!!”, and then I just kind of stopped hearing about it. That said, PvP in general has been in decline for awhile. You can definitely still have fun with it, either solo or in groups, but there are less PvP dramas playing out concurrently than there were in the old days. But if you are the type to _create_ PvP dramas, instead of waiting for them to come along, you will still find some fun gameplay. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/6 "2023-10-08T03:03:00Z")
Eve Online is an environment that Capsuleer’s choose to live in. Eve is not PvP centered. Eve is content centered. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/7 "2023-10-08T13:55:35Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Eve is not PvP centered ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/7/b/b7b262f8b5abfb92c3c3834f96a09c2976f558e1.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/8 "2023-10-11T17:11:38Z")
Eve stands for everyone vs everyone. It’s a PvP game with its wings clipped. ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/9 "2023-10-11T17:12:21Z")
Thanks. I do have a knack for creating drama 👀 ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/10 "2023-10-11T17:13:01Z")
Thanks. Solo PvP is the only kind worth any minerals though. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/11 "2023-10-11T17:16:25Z")
If Eve stood for everyone vs everyone, then there wouldn’t be any corporations and Eve Online would simply be a mosh pit. that everyone would eventually grow up from. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/12 "2023-10-11T17:30:04Z")
No it literally stands for that. The fact it’s changed and now people can live in safety doesn’t change history. That is quite literally why it’s called EvE Online. Don’t tell me to try again just because you don’t like the facts I’ve generously dispensed for you. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/13 "2023-10-11T17:44:56Z")
Yah EVE does stand for Everyone vs Everyone. 😂 It’s an acronym. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/14 "2023-10-11T21:07:42Z")
Now to further your education on acronyms, @DrysonBennington , we have the acronymical sentance ## [Acronymical Sentance](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=acronymical) The use of an acronym in the form of a sentence, using [upper case](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=upper%20case) for the emphasis of the acronym. Example “Following Utter Comedic Kings, Over Fellow Followers” The [Acronymical](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Acronymical) sentence does not have to make sense, but it’s genius when it can be done, @Zaera_Keena ofcourse being a genius! by [Zaera Keena](https://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=The%7EWench) October 11, 2023 ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/15 "2023-10-12T06:26:34Z")
now it is a shooter. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/516955_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/16 "2023-10-13T01:21:07Z")
compete for resources is also considered PVP /I will sit out for now my pilot is drinking ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/17 "2023-10-13T01:43:29Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Eve is content centered. And the main content is other players. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/18 "2023-10-13T11:44:00Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > my pilot is drinking Drinking what Frosty? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/2/d/e2da6f6f673566f5acd125631cb5ca7ad805e1e8.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/516955_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/19 "2023-10-13T11:54:43Z")
Great this is crime and punishment. Just had to check where I had typed that. I am drinking my own pod goo each time I jump out and back in my +5 implant clone each time I need to undock. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041/20 "2023-10-13T11:56:05Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > drinking my own pod goo :facepalm: Sounds extremely unhealthy and disgusting. 😛 🤔 [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-a-pvp-game-again/423041.md?page=2)