# Is it all about pvp? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 8, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920 "2018-09-08T18:13:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/61 "2018-09-09T10:12:18Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You cant say “Im PvPing this space rock” when you are mining it. you cant say you are pveing it either though youre just harvesting resources while denying other players those resources ---
**Author:** ![Milana\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milana_pollard/32/93398_2.png) [@Milana\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milana_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/62 "2018-09-09T10:12:35Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You cant say “Im PvPing this space rock” when you are mining it. But you can say, “I’m PVP’ing all the players that can’t mine this space rock when I’m done with it” Check mate, athetits. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/63 "2018-09-09T10:13:32Z")
If there is no-one else there PvEing that space rock, there is no PvP, as there is no other player involved to constitute it as PvP. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/64 "2018-09-09T10:15:12Z")
so after youve done mining it is the rock still there for another player to mine no it is gone and you have denied other players the opportunity to take its resources and i dont consider harvesting a rock pve tbh ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/65 "2018-09-09T10:16:21Z")
If I find a diamond in a rock IRL, I havent PvPed anyone to get it. Nor does me picking it up constitute PvP. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/66 "2018-09-09T10:16:31Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > > All the ISK, Loot and LP’s generated from running a mission doesn’t affect any other player until it’s incorporated back into the games economy. > > Do you understand what “incorporated back in to the games economy” actually means? Asking because the moment you use it just for yourself is the moment you have not used market for something and that act alone already has impact on the games economy. Gotta give you credit for twisting it around into a “Damned if you do and damned if you don’t” type of scenario. Going by your interpretation - not logging into the game is also PvP since that action has an impact on the economy as well. Man, that takes the cake. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/67 "2018-09-09T10:17:20Z")
sure you have youve pvped all the other people in the world and every single person to exist in future generations potentially trillions of people ---
**Author:** ![Milana\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milana_pollard/32/93398_2.png) [@Milana\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milana_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/68 "2018-09-09T10:17:32Z")
Video games aren’t RL, buddy. And RL isn’t a video game, either. I’m sorry to break it to you. Not really. But if you really want to go there. That diamond you found is one that no one else gets to find. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/69 "2018-09-09T10:18:11Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > youve pvped all the other people in the world and every single person to exist in future generations There was no competition or other player interaction involved. Just me and the environment. Its like you are saying Genghis Khan PvPd every human to have existed since, though he died hundreds of years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Milana\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milana_pollard/32/93398_2.png) [@Milana\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milana_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/70 "2018-09-09T10:19:26Z")
You don’t get it, do you. By beating everyone else to the punch, YOU’RE the competition for everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/71 "2018-09-09T10:19:39Z")
youve taken away the opportunity for anyone else to find that diamond youve removed wealth from another person ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/72 "2018-09-09T10:20:47Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > ts like you are saying Genghis Khan PvP every human to have existed since. yeah thats right think about 300 years ago when banks and financial institutions started making complicated terminology and rules to rip people off those people are long dead and yet their rules are still ripping us all off ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/73 "2018-09-09T10:21:26Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > youve removed wealth from another person I didnt remove it from any other person, as no other person ever had it. Only I have it, from the environment. If someone tries to take it from me, or haggles with me to buy it, that is PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Milana\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milana_pollard/32/93398_2.png) [@Milana\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milana_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/74 "2018-09-09T10:21:47Z")
To be honest, my bank has never ripped me off. Because I don’t use banks, I use credit unions. But I digress. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/75 "2018-09-09T10:22:11Z")
youve taken it from the next person who would have found it if you hadnt found it first ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/76 "2018-09-09T10:22:13Z")
> [@Milana\_Pollard](#): > > You don’t get it, do you. > > By beating everyone else to the punch, YOU’RE the competition for everyone else. You’re the one who doesn’t get it. At Downtime the rocks, exploration sites, missions, etc are respawned again. If nobody else enters that system and tries to do what you’re doing in it, then it’s just PvE. ---
**Author:** ![Milana\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milana_pollard/32/93398_2.png) [@Milana\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milana_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/77 "2018-09-09T10:22:58Z")
And what are you going to do with the stuff you find there? Leave it in your cargo for decoration? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/78 "2018-09-09T10:23:00Z")
> [@Milana\_Pollard](#): > > my bank > [@Milana\_Pollard](#): > > I don’t use banks Cognitive dissonance. No wonder you cant understand the difference between PvE and PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Milana\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milana_pollard/32/93398_2.png) [@Milana\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milana_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/79 "2018-09-09T10:23:35Z")
My dude, I can’t help that your ability to understand very basic ironic humour is limited. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/80 "2018-09-09T10:23:47Z")
> [@Milana\_Pollard](#): > > Leave it in your cargo for decoration? I might keep it on my desk for good luck. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920.md?page=5)