# Is it all about pvp? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 8, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920 "2018-09-08T18:13:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/81 "2018-09-09T10:25:36Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > it’s just PvE. how is it pve ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/82 "2018-09-09T10:26:35Z")
Try reading the entire statement. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/83 "2018-09-09T10:27:08Z")
okay but we are discussing mining specifically ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/84 "2018-09-09T10:27:40Z")
What purpose dids this mining serve? Is it for the sake of it? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/85 "2018-09-09T10:29:47Z")
It actually started with mission rewards - ISK, Loot and LP’s but mining will work too. Like I said, if nobody else comes into the system and starts doing what you’re doing, then it’s PvE, especially since everything respawns at DT. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/86 "2018-09-09T10:32:03Z")
nah mining isnt pve look up any definition of pve it wont include harvesting resources people seem to think anything that isnt shooting people is pve like jumping through a stargate is pve its not shooting rats is pve shooting rocks is not ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/87 "2018-09-09T10:34:28Z")
Sorry but according to others you shooting rats is PvP cuz you’re depriving others the opportunity to do it. Hell, you not logging into the game still has an impact on the economy in-game so that’s PvP as well. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/88 "2018-09-09T10:36:56Z")
hm well if its rats in belts or anoms then yeah i guess it could be if its missions then those rats are spawned on demand for you so thats not pvp but then using the lp and isk in ways that affects other players could be considered pvp in some ways i dont consider the generation of isk from mission faucets to be pvp as the isk does not affect the economy while it is in your wallet but when the isk is spent then i guess it falls into the realm of pvp ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/89 "2018-09-09T10:49:50Z")
Is it PvP against all humans, now and future: 1. When I pickup a grain of sand on a beach? 2. When I breathe? 3. When water evaporates off my skin after a swim in the ocean? 4. When I pickup a fallen stick in a forest to make my shelter with? 5. When I disinfect my hands, so as to not pass germs on them to you when we shake hands? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/90 "2018-09-09T10:54:51Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > youve taken it from the next person I quite literally didnt take it from anyone. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/91 "2018-09-09T10:55:48Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > When I pickup a grain of sand on a beach? yes > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > When I breathe? depends on circumstances but potentially > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > When water evaporates off my skin after a swim in the ocean? nah > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > When I pickup a fallen stick in a forest to make my shelter with? yeah > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > When I disinfect my hands, so as to not pass germs on them to you when we shake hands? yeah ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/92 "2018-09-09T10:56:10Z")
Amazing mental acrobatics. Does the fact I own this phone Im typing on, and not you, constitute PvP? ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/93 "2018-09-09T10:56:38Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I quite literally didnt take it from anyone. so if you jump the queue at a cinema and get the last seat have you not taken the seat from someone ---
**Author:** ![Milana\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milana_pollard/32/93398_2.png) [@Milana\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Milana_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/94 "2018-09-09T10:57:11Z")
RL isn’t a PVP game EVE is. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/95 "2018-09-09T10:57:46Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > I quite literally didnt take it from anyone. > > so if you jump the queue at a cinema and get the last seat have you not taken the seat from someone Correct. I didnt take the seat from anyone, as they never occupied/owned it. If I enter the theater, rip them out of their seat, and sit in it, then I took it from them. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/96 "2018-09-09T10:58:58Z")
nah youve taken their place in the queue and denied their opportunity to watch the movie very underhanded all the effort they spent to get to the cinema and wait in queue only to go back home without a reward for their efforts you pvped them hard ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/97 "2018-09-09T11:00:03Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > youve taken their place in the queue I took their place in the queue, yes. That was PvP. But I did not take their seat from them, as they did not yet occupy it, nor have purchased it. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/98 "2018-09-09T11:01:12Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I took their place in the queue, yes. yeah same as with the diamond ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/99 "2018-09-09T11:01:34Z")
Amazing… ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/100 "2018-09-09T11:02:16Z")
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