# Is it all about pvp? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 8, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920 "2018-09-08T18:13:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/161 "2018-09-10T12:19:20Z")
stop talking to me ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/162 "2018-09-10T12:21:22Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > stop talking to me Make me. Show me your fantasy of everything being EVE PvP extending to everything outside of EVE, past, present and future. Do you think players will stop blowing you up in EVE when you tell them to stop, too? ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/163 "2018-09-10T12:24:40Z")
you are a puppy chasing your tail running in circles and getting nowhere you are funny to watch for a couple of minutes but now you are boring learn a new trick ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/164 "2018-09-10T12:25:34Z")
Is that your best shot? Is this not also EVE PvP by your own definition? Also, the irony and hypocrisy of you trying to tell me to stop talking to you, when you yourself persist in talking to me. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/165 "2018-09-10T12:28:40Z")
we are 2 eve players competing in the meta thats true > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Also, the irony and hypocrisy of you trying to tell me to stop talking to you, when you yourself persist in talking to me. yes i am also amazed at how needy for attention you are ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/166 "2018-09-10T12:32:10Z")
Actually they should probably just create that PvE server. I mean it will probably not need a lot of resources because there is no PvP hence no fleet fights. This would have two advantages: - We could send the people crying to the PvE server instead of Hello Kitty Online - After 2 months of grinding on the PvE server for no goal other than amassing more than the other PvE guy most people would probably recognize the actual problem and move back to TQ where their grinding at least has an impact in the actual sandbox. Or where they can dream about one day to actually be ready for null ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/167 "2018-09-10T12:32:55Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > we are 2 eve players competing in the meta > thats true There is no meta competition here. Just you making ridiculous claims that EVE PvP involves players that left 10yrs ago, or died. > [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > yes i am also amazed at how needy for attention you are You told me to stop talking to you, yet you persist in talking to me. That is hypocrisy. You expect me to follow your demands, but will not do so yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/168 "2018-09-10T12:36:09Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Actually they should probably just create that PvE server. It wont last a month. They dont realize what they are asking for… ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/169 "2018-09-10T12:36:35Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Just you making ridiculous claims that EVE PvP involves players that left 10yrs ago, or died. how is it ridiculous when i proved you wrong and you have no argument to counter with > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You told me to stop talking to you, yet you persist in talking to me. > > That is hypocrisy. that is not hypocrisy hypocrisy is when i say i am not going to talk to you but keep talking i didnt say that i said you should stop talking to me for some reason you refuse and i can only assume it is because you are needy as you have nothing of value to post what is a name for someone who offers nothing and demands attention i think a troll is a fitting description ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/170 "2018-09-10T12:37:17Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > So lets make a hypothetical example; lets say small antimatter charges are 20isk each on sell orders and 15isk each on buy orders. I buy all antimatter charges under 30isk and place a buy order for 10bn units of antimatter at 30 isk per unit for 3 months in jita. This means if anyone else wants to place a buy order for antimatter they will have to outbid my buy order and pay over double they previously were. As you agree this is pvp No, because there are different regions. And people can fly around to get it at another price anyways by putting “moar alts” (Shh! don’t tell others, because this is the way to win EVE Online) around space. Also they can just decide it’s too expensive and will manufacture it. This opens up the mining (PVE) and manufacturing (PVE) options they have. YES, they _CAN_ do PVP IF THEY WISH but no one has to. ANd yes, tehy can get attacked by both NPC and player pirates but in the end those aren’t really ‘hardcore PVP’ but more like npc larpers which can be avoided by changing Environment (time/place). EVE Online can easily be played as a solo PVE game if you want to. You will need to do a lot of different PVE tasks. And for some parts you will need to have a omega account. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/172 "2018-09-10T12:37:57Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > They dont realize what they are asking for… Of course they don’t. This request comes only from people who have absolutely no idea how EVE works. But some people can just not be educated by telling them why they are wrong, maybe they will get it when they experience it. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/173 "2018-09-10T12:38:45Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > No, because there are different regions. And people can fly around to get it at another price oh i see so are you saying my actions are causing other players to inconvenience themselves having to go further and make extra effort to avoid the effects of my actions huh ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/174 "2018-09-10T12:40:27Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > But some people can just not be educated by telling them why they are wrong, maybe they will get it when they experience it. True. Case in point is JC in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/175 "2018-09-10T12:40:39Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > my actions are causing other players to inconvenience themselves It depends, in PVE games people had the ability to stand in a doorway blocking others. You _could_ stretch the definition to PVP like you could stretch Miley Cyrus over a Wrecking Ball. I’d like to see people try. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/176 "2018-09-10T12:41:42Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > It depends, in PVE games people had the ability to stand in a doorway blocking others. You _could_ stretch the definition to PVP well it isnt an npc blocking the doorway is it ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/177 "2018-09-10T12:41:49Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > You _could_ stretch the definition to PVP like you could stretch Miley Cyrus over a Wrecking Ball. Im stealing this. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/178 "2018-09-10T12:42:19Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Case in point is JC in this thread. do you have a counter argument yet ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/179 "2018-09-10T12:43:00Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > Case in point is JC in this thread. > > do you have a counter argument yet Why are you still talking at me? ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/180 "2018-09-10T12:45:15Z")
because you refuse to cencede the argument and resort to petty attacks on me ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920/181 "2018-09-10T12:45:30Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > well it isnt an npc blocking the doorway is it No, it’s a real life player with feelings and opinions. So like I said you could define it as PVP. I guess if the ‘receiving player’ does not differentiate it’s just PVE (certainly in their heads). [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-all-about-pvp/104920.md?page=10)