# Is it only me that miss it?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 13, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864 "2019-07-13T22:46:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_sanzen_in/32/479635_2.png) [@Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Sanzen_in)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/41 "2019-07-14T10:54:58Z")

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Hell yes I bloody love Razum-dar he and Sir Cadwell is like the to pest NPC´s in the whole game.

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**Author:** ![Kashara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kashara/32/143900_2.png) [@Kashara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kashara)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/42 "2019-07-14T10:59:55Z")

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> [@Maria\_Sanzen\_in](#):
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> Sir Cadwell

Hell yeah, Sir Cadwell!

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/1/d/f1d9a45910ac97b3bc89d36f3b3672830f58f047.jpeg "John Cleese - ESO") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s2ebtsFx4Y)

Thing is, EVE has not one NPC I could remember by name, except for Sister Aliura (and she’s not even memorable).

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**Author:** ![Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_sanzen_in/32/479635_2.png) [@Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Sanzen_in)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/43 "2019-07-14T11:06:55Z")

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> [@Kashara](#):
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> Sir Cadwell

Well Sir Cadwell is awesome becuse it´s bloody John Cleese.

Problem with eve becuse it´s a sanbox mmo that is run by players. NPC are more a side thing to give out mission to make some isk before going out killing or dying.

I say hire John Cleese he can be the new AI voice.

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**Author:** ![Kashara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kashara/32/143900_2.png) [@Kashara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kashara)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/44 "2019-07-14T11:10:10Z")

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No need to hire John Cleese. The number of mission givers could also be reduced, and the whole “get a mission from a station” could be replaced by a mission computer there that generates one (think Freelancer), and you could get in touch with NPCs by contacting them - we supposedly have FTL tech. Reduce it to 10 NPCs, flesh these out properly, done.

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**Author:** ![Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_sanzen_in/32/479635_2.png) [@Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Sanzen_in)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/45 "2019-07-14T11:20:02Z")

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yeah I agree on that and maybe do missions a bit more enjoyable no im not saying eve should be like all other mmos but rely missions in eve feel more like a shore than something fun and enjoyable sure allot of mmo´s have quests like that but then instead they a few of them have a fun completing main story quest to learn the story of the world.

I don´t see why missions in eve could tell a story to teach you more about the world and lore of eve and you yet can make your own story. Just because it´s a Sanbox games does not mean you can tell a story. I mean ■■■■ according what people call sandbox games Just cause, Witcher 3 and GTA is classified as sanbox games and yet tell a story.

But then again eve players are kinda anti other games when it comes to eve don´t make eve generic game. But you can still add good game mechanics other games has and yet have an unique game.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/46 "2019-07-14T11:21:11Z")

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> [@Maria\_Sanzen\_in](#):
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> John Cleese

■■■■■■■ prick

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**Author:** ![Kashara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kashara/32/143900_2.png) [@Kashara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kashara)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/47 "2019-07-14T11:24:35Z")

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Could just leave the epic arcs in NPC hands (and maybe a few others, and give Aura a proper voiceover and bring her in more often) and implement a proper random-mission-computer. It’s so easy to do, too, and you can really cheap out on it. 10 NPCs, find 10 fledgling voice artists - easy going.

Eve players are a good example of devs being better off not listening too much to their players. I mean, sure, get the general vibe, but then set sail and stick to your course. Eve players are in general not very good at determining what’s good for the game.

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**Author:** ![Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_sanzen_in/32/479635_2.png) [@Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Sanzen_in)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/48 "2019-07-14T11:38:06Z")

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Yes I totally agree with you and I will be the ass to say it reason why eve player are not good at determining what’s good for the game, is that majority of them are not game designers and every one is split on what they want or not.

Asking eve players on how to make or improve things in eve is like asking a gardener to be a civil engineer. Which would not work because the gardener don´t have the qualifications. Sure you can ask what people would like to see but then decide your self what you want to add and what would work best even if people are against it.

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**Author:** ![Kashara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kashara/32/143900_2.png) [@Kashara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kashara)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/49 "2019-07-14T11:39:42Z")

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Yeah, we’re great at being players, not at being designers.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/50 "2019-07-14T11:40:39Z")

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> [@Kashara](#):
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> Eve players are a good example of devs being better off not listening too much to their players.

I may like you a lot more now than I did before.

Just sayin x

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/51 "2019-07-14T11:59:54Z")

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No I don’t miss it at all. It was a complete waste of Developer time and resources, it added nothing to the core of Eve which is flying spaceships, in space.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/52 "2019-07-14T12:19:02Z")

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Obvioulsy the EvE version is miles better than that other ■■■■ you have posted, whatever it is.

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**Author:** ![Kashara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kashara/32/143900_2.png) [@Kashara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kashara)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/53 "2019-07-14T12:25:03Z")

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Obviously. That’s also why EVE has much higher subscription numbers than whatever it was I posted. Amirite?

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/54 "2019-07-14T12:25:46Z")

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I don’t want EvE to have higher sub numbers than that other shite.

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**Author:** ![Kashara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kashara/32/143900_2.png) [@Kashara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kashara)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/55 "2019-07-14T12:27:14Z")

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Why have other players at all, right?  
EVE should be a single player game, right?

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/56 "2019-07-14T12:28:21Z")

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Try to write a sentence without a ? for a change.

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**Author:** ![Kashara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kashara/32/143900_2.png) [@Kashara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kashara)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/57 "2019-07-14T12:29:40Z")

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Why?  
Do you have an aversion against question marks?  
What’s your problem with them?  
Do you think we’re delivering relevant content to this thread right now, the way we post?  
It surely isn’t low-effort shitposting now, is it?

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/58 "2019-07-14T12:33:20Z")

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snicker

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**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/59 "2019-07-14T12:38:10Z")

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CCP doesnt see WiS as something that would bring enough money to justify developing it.  
Thing is, they always wanted to bring microtransactions for socializers, customizations. But that isnt very much money, so they have gone the other way, SKINS. That was easier, cheaper to do and brings similar money.  
The WiS was more like doubling on that, because WoD was supposed to have it too, and in EVE that was like a test for WoD, but they had to reviev their plans after jita protests. Also WoD died because of incompetence of CCP managers.

Its all about money.

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**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luke_skywalking/32/157782_2.png) [@Luke\_Skywalking](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luke_Skywalking)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-only-me-that-miss-it/174864/60 "2019-07-14T12:47:17Z")

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I miss the Captains Quarters too…

But I believe CCP will not try to bring it back or provide additional “station content”, because, ship spinning in station is bad enough. Undock your ships! =D

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