# Is it safe to fly a billion ISK ship? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 19, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849 "2019-08-19T15:51:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/1 "2019-08-19T15:51:23Z")
Hello I was in high sec and was watching jump freighter after jump freighter flying around these are not cheep ships some I swear were using autopilot to get to a gate, is that even safe for them or is there something I don’t know about? ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/2 "2019-08-19T16:02:48Z")
It’s save enough and many of them are part of the blue ganker donut that protects them from most ganks. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/3 "2019-08-19T16:05:37Z")
You should probably ask to see their Hauling Permits ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/4 "2019-08-19T16:40:44Z")
> [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](#): > > is that even safe for them or is there something I don’t know about? You could always try yourself and find out. ---
**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/5 "2019-08-19T16:44:35Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > You could always try yourself and find out Still very new and don’t have the skill requirements yet 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/6 "2019-08-19T16:45:33Z")
> [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](#): > > Still very new and don’t have the skill requirements yet No need to buy the ship, just buy a bunch of plex, autopilot in a shuttle with the plex inside, and type in local what youre doing. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/7 "2019-08-19T16:49:39Z")
Don’t forget to live stream it too. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/entereen_valcaltus/32/172082_2.png) [@Entereen\_Valcaltus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Entereen_Valcaltus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/8 "2019-08-19T16:53:56Z")
> [@Solonius\_Rex](#): > > No need to buy the ship, just buy a bunch of plex, autopilot in a shuttle with the plex inside, and type in local what youre doing. If you have the money for the plex I will do it 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/9 "2019-08-19T17:01:49Z")
If you have a mining permit and follow [the Code](http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html?m=1) you are fine. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/10 "2019-08-19T17:51:38Z")
I sense great potential in you, grasshopper ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/11 "2019-08-19T18:39:47Z")
Lies!!! ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/12 "2019-08-19T19:37:17Z")
Behind the verbal diarrhoea the code contains a lot of common sense that some see as onerous, patently obvious things like not going afk in a PvP game. Would you go afk in CS? I hope not, and if you do you deserve to be on the receiving end of a headshot. But apparently some see it as a good idea to do so in Eve and then get bent out of shape when they’re on the receiving end of a headshot; I’m guessing that you fall into this group. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/13 "2019-08-19T19:49:39Z")
Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt it possible to jump out (Reverse Hotdrop I guess) if you get your JF stuck in a bump? ---
**Author:** ![SWAGGETTI\_delConte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swaggetti_delconte/32/242869_2.png) [@SWAGGETTI\_delConte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SWAGGETTI_delConte)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/14 "2019-08-19T20:01:38Z")
Safe? Ur not safe even in starter ship ---
**Author:** ![Netan\_MalDoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/netan_maldoran/32/426257_2.png) [@Netan\_MalDoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Netan_MalDoran)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/15 "2019-08-20T01:50:01Z")
You talking about normal Freighters? Cause Jump freighters cost like, 9 bil ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/16 "2019-08-20T02:07:30Z")
Everything in EVE is safe - until it isn’t. Some places are less safe than others - such as choke points on commonly used travel routes (like Uedama and Niarja). **How** unsafe it is, at any given moment, can depend on how many disreputable pilots are standing by, ready to make something unsafe. ---
**Author:** ![ShahFluffers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shahfluffers/32/258921_2.png) [@ShahFluffers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ShahFluffers)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/17 "2019-08-20T02:35:34Z")
Okay… I guess I’ll play the “straight man” and offer up an actual answer to the OP. 🙂 When you ask “is it safe to fly a billion ISK ship?” a distinction has to be made. 1. Is it safe to fly a ship whose hull is worth a billion ISK? 2. Is it safe to fly a ship that is carrying a billion ISK? If the question is #1 then yes, it is generally pretty safe. If the question is #2 then no, it is not safe. The reason for this is simple: - Destroying a ship whose hull is worth a billion ISK will not produce much in terms of tangible rewards. More so if the ship has enough HP to necessitate multiple hostiles engaging it at once. - Destroying a ship that is carrying cargo valued at a billion ISK is a different story. Since cargo has a 50% chance of dropping as loot, there is a chance of a decent “payday” for the aforementioned hostiles. At this point it is simply a calculation on how many ships and people (and effort) are needed to destroy the target… and how much said ships and people cost. The easier it is to destroy the ship carrying a billion ISK, the better the potential payout. I will also point out that this only applies in 1.0 to 0.5 space (High-Sec). Once you venture out into 0.4 to 0.1 (Low-Sec) and 0.0 to -1.0 space (Null-Sec / Wormhole Space) this calculation goes up in smoke. It simply becomes a matter of, “can someone catch and blow you up or not?” edit: I will also add that there are those out there who will blow up a billion ISK ship for no other reason than “because they could” or to “see if they could do it at all.” And there are others out there who will blow up expensive ships because they have a vendetta against the pilot flying said ship. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/18 "2019-08-20T02:46:41Z")
It’s about as safe as a small fleet ganking with tornadoes. ---
**Author:** ![Loutro\_Fift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loutro_fift/32/195473_2.png) [@Loutro\_Fift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loutro_Fift)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/19 "2019-08-20T05:54:49Z")
> [@ShahFluffers](#): > > Okay… I guess I’ll play the “straight man” and offer up an actual answer to the OP. 🙂 > > edit: I will also add that there are those out there who will blow up a billion ISK ship for no other reason than “because they could” or to “see if they could do it at all.” I’d blow it up just to see the expression on the pilots face 😩 ---
**Author:** ![Arcxhisseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcxhisseus/32/299996_2.png) [@Arcxhisseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcxhisseus)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849/20 "2019-08-20T14:27:18Z")
Calm down Miner, we understand your concerns. Oh gawd these people are HIlarious: [http://www.minerbumping.com/2018/10/highsec-miner-grab-bag-168.html](http://www.minerbumping.com/2018/10/highsec-miner-grab-bag-168.html) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-safe-to-fly-a-billion-isk-ship/183849.md?page=2)