# Is it time for Miner III?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [February 4, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338 "2018-02-04T13:04:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![SWAGGZENEGGER](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swaggzenegger/32/236776_2.png) [@SWAGGZENEGGER](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SWAGGZENEGGER)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/41 "2018-02-06T10:54:08Z")

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After 3 comes 4 and than 5… the industrials will become more powerful and disbalanced… pure grind for isk

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/42 "2018-02-06T16:08:54Z")

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> [@Max\_Deveron](#):
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> The only mineral you cant find in rocks in highsec is megacyte…

Did they change this recently? It used to be that you could get it in 6.6k increments. You burned a lot of standing though if you wanted real quanitites.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/43 "2018-02-06T16:18:51Z")

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you didnt hurt my feelings…

I just dont do stupid very well…  
and people not researching something or talking from experience on at least basic stuff, are just well stupid.

you need not be an industrialist, you just have to open up the market screen and click the little info button on each ore type…jesus christ.

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/44 "2018-02-06T16:20:01Z")

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> [@Teckos\_Pech](#):
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> The price going down is not inflation. Unless you are are referring to quantity inflation which is kind of odd phrasing…

On some accounts inflation merely is quanitity increase, such that an increase in the quantity causes a decrease in unit value. Mineral inflation isnt necessarily conceptually bonkers.

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**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/45 "2018-02-06T16:29:23Z")

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Agreed. Traditional inflation refers to a surplus of currency. Mineral inflation refers to a surplus of minerals. As minerals could be considered the currency by which miners are paid for their activity, it’s completely reasonable to apply the terminology of inflation to them. Too many minerals in circulation devalues the minerals, just as too much currency devalues the currency.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/46 "2018-02-07T04:55:01Z")

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> [@Zircon\_Dasher](#):
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> On some accounts inflation merely is quanitity increase, such that an increase in the quantity causes a decrease in unit value. Mineral inflation isnt necessarily conceptually bonkers.

No, but is kind of an odd way to phrase it though.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/47 "2018-02-07T05:01:52Z")

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> [@mkint](#):
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> As minerals could be considered the currency by which miners are paid for their activity…

Minerals could be considered a currency…but no mineral is a currency. Granted if ISK was no longer deemed a stable medium of exchange by the player base it is conceivable that a mineral could emerge as a form of currency. However, it is usually the case that commodities that do become a currency are one’s of little practical value like gold, silver, sea shells, or decorated belts. Of course, salt, peppercorns and tobacco leaves have been used too…

> [@mkint](#):
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> …it’s completely reasonable to apply the terminology of inflation to them.

Inflation usually refers to monetary phenomena and minerals are not money. As such it is a bit odd.

> [@mkint](#):
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> Too many minerals in circulation devalues the minerals, just as too much currency devalues the currency.

Yes, but latter is “money” the former is not. It is akin to saying ship inflation. I get what was meant, it was just an odd way of phrasing it vs. say “mineral over production” or “increased mineral production.”

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**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/48 "2018-02-07T14:05:05Z")

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> [@mkint](#):
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> Agreed. Traditional inflation refers to a surplus of currency. Mineral inflation refers to a surplus of minerals. As minerals could be considered the currency by which miners are paid for their activity, it’s completely reasonable to apply the terminology of inflation to them. Too many minerals in circulation devalues the minerals, just as too much currency devalues the currency.

right just has the government pays farmers to trash and burn their crops so they don’t devalue food crops causing other farmers to be paid less due to the price decrease of crops due to the abundance of said crops.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/49 "2018-02-07T22:27:09Z")

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> [@Agondray](#):
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> right just has the government pays farmers to trash and burn their crops so they don’t devalue food crops causing other farmers to be paid less due to the price decrease of crops due to the abundance of said crops.

Wait…this is the 1930’s and we are implementing the NIRA? 😛

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/50 "2018-02-08T12:46:22Z")

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its not actually odd phrasing it just seems odd to you because you like to apply real work economic philosphies to this game  
in real world economy resources dont regenerate at downtime on a daily basis  
we have a limited amount of resources on our planet which leads to currency inflation  
in this game the minerals aren’t a scarce resource because they regenerate daily and so mineral infaltion is a thing that happens  
when players have methods to extract as many minerals as possible between each daily downtime

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/51 "2018-02-08T12:54:49Z")

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> [@Teckos\_Pech](#):
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> Minerals could be considered a currency…but no mineral is a currency. Granted if ISK was no longer deemed a stable medium of exchange by the player base it is conceivable that a mineral could emerge as a form of currency. However, it is usually the case that commodities that do become a currency are one’s of little practical value like gold, silver, sea shells, or decorated belts. Of course, salt, peppercorns and tobacco leaves have been used too…

you know all of those things are still a stable medium of exchange  
currency only exists to make trading those things easier  
so like you can carry around money to buy things instead of having to carry 10 baskets of chickens  
non-fiat currency itself has no actual value  
and only serves to fill a hole in debt  
if all the debt on the planet was fully paid there would be no global interest in any non-fiat currency  
and we would go back to using fiat currency  
precious metals  
which is where we are in eve now  
isk is a fiat currency based on minerals  
which presumably inflate on a daily basis  
this point can be argued  
however  
one point that cannot be argued is that isk is definitely not a non-fiat currency such as the currency used in the real world

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-time-for-miner-iii/55338/52 "2018-05-09T12:54:52Z")

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