# Is it true that NPC stations in high sec are going away?

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**Created:** [September 17, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576 "2020-09-17T14:32:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Neo\_Vallen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neo_vallen/32/507944_2.png) [@Neo\_Vallen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neo_Vallen)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/1 "2020-09-17T14:32:10Z")

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Rumor has it that NPC stations in high sec are going away. Anyone know anything about it?

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**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/2 "2020-09-17T14:36:52Z")

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sure. new docking access rights for npc stations are coming soon. \<= 0 standing no more docking, only asset safety.

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/3 "2020-09-17T14:47:49Z")

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No. It would make it possible for the TTT consortium, or any other group of ill-will, to literally refuse docking to all of New Eden.

The TTT is a microcosm of their ultimate carebearing, hypocrisy and pathetic childishness. There would end up being 1 KS, 1 Tatara and 1 Sotiyo in every hisec system under one banner. The taxes would be maxxed out and probably would simply block all non-blues from docking for various lengths of time just to troll.

If CCP was really stupid enough to allow that (looking at Blackout) then I hope they update their resumes about the same time they release said theoretical update.

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**Author:** ![Owen\_Levanth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/owen_levanth/32/379056_2.png) [@Owen\_Levanth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Owen_Levanth)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/4 "2020-09-17T14:57:05Z")

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> [@Neo\_Vallen](#):
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> Rumor has it that NPC stations in high sec are going away. Anyone know anything about it?

Rumor has it CCP is planning to biomass everyone who hasn’t pledged to either EDENCOM or Trigvania yet. That is, every character. If you have alts, you better hurry to get them all some standing!

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/5 "2020-09-17T15:01:03Z")

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Based on the Zenith trailer, Mike Azariah stating that the CSM is trying to get CCP to stop their current plan, and the new warning to evac those systems, I wouldn’t be surprised if the entire invaded system gets yeeted into the abyss.

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**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/6 "2020-09-17T15:12:23Z")

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Pretty sure it’s going to be this, or something akin to it.

The whole stargates-shutting-down thing is too extravagant of an event to put it into a trailer and then not have it actually happen.

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**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/7 "2020-09-17T15:38:11Z")

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I wouldn’t put much stock in that rumor.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/8 "2020-09-17T15:42:10Z")

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They partially-disabled asset safety for upwells. People cried rivers over that, but not quite enough to make any headlines in the gamer websites. People wondered aloud whether their assets were safe, even in NPC stations. Based on today’s news release, it seems that no, your assets are not really safe anywhere anymore.

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**Author:** ![Gabriel\_Eban](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gabriel_eban/32/308946_2.png) [@Gabriel\_Eban](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gabriel_Eban)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/9 "2020-09-17T15:44:26Z")

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Let’s be honest though. CCP is, without doubt, stupid enough to do this and worse.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/10 "2020-09-17T15:53:02Z")

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I store all of _my_ assets in my mom’s credit card.

Bring it on CCP, let’s see what you got!

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**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/11 "2020-09-17T15:53:37Z")

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I’m assuming the systems in question will vanish entirely, and I both hate and love that possibility.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/12 "2020-09-17T16:00:17Z")

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Then where will the Triglodytes live?

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**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/13 "2020-09-17T16:00:46Z")

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I think it’s more likely that they’re going to still be accessible in some way, but probably not by stargate.

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**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/14 "2020-09-17T16:21:21Z")

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More likely they will be disconnected from the gate system (and paths rerouted accordingly) and will be accessible through some kind of filaments like the other triglavian stuff where all triglavian sympathizers would indulge in all kinds of abhorrent activities.  
Basically, I think CCP are trying to create something alike “wormholes 2.0”

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/15 "2020-09-17T16:24:40Z")

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Wormholes where you can grind in absolute, intstanced safety, perhaps?

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**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/17 "2020-09-17T16:26:19Z")

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NPC leveled mission content depends on … NPC stations. I would NOT expect NPC stations to go away, without a serious rework of the mission system to support - moving all existing NPC agents into player-built stations 😉

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**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/18 "2020-09-17T16:28:21Z")

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If seems you are unfamiliar with CCP’s signature “Can’t rework - just kill it” approach 😃

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**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/19 "2020-09-17T16:30:22Z")

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> [@Azalais\_Selenica](#):
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> Basically, I think CCP are trying to create something alike “wormholes 2.0”

Ah, that would make sense.

Well, as far as my game is concerned that will qualify as “vanish completely”. Looks like I’m in for some long drives in the future.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/20 "2020-09-17T16:31:24Z")

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eve is landfill design  
the code is so big , so old and so complex that is way more productive to just put a new feature on top than dig a old feature and try to change it

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**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/21 "2020-09-17T16:32:04Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Wormholes where you can grind in absolute, intstanced safety, perhaps?

No. I mean “envisioned-as-bloodbath-but-gets-abandoned-quickly-because-no-one-goes-there-because-with-such-risk-no-reward-is-worth-it-therefore-ccp-are-forced-to-nerf-the-risk-to-salvage-the-situation” kind of stuff.

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