# Is it true that NPC stations in high sec are going away? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 17, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576 "2020-09-17T14:32:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Alias\_Kova](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alias_kova/32/196568_2.png) [@Alias\_Kova](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alias_Kova)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/64 "2020-09-18T06:23:14Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > They partially-disabled asset safety for upwells. People cried rivers over that, but not quite enough to make any headlines in the gamer websites. People wondered aloud whether their assets were safe, even in NPC stations. Based on today’s news release, it seems that no, your assets are not really safe anywhere anymore. CCP is not stupid but just wicked ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/65 "2020-09-18T06:58:00Z")
so if triglavian systems that are on Final Liminality will vanish??? what happens to players/ships that are in these systems?? just end up deleting everything in the systems and you lose everything in them? then EDENCOM npcs will vanish too or they stick around? those who has negative standing towards EDENCOM will never be able to fix their standing again and gets shoot by EDENCOM npcs when ever you are in their controlled systems? what happens to systems that are at EDENCOM Fortress after??? when it all happen if it happen ever ??? too many question and uncertainty… ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/66 "2020-09-18T06:59:12Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > so if triglavian systems that are on Final Liminality will vanish?? I think the empire gates will shut down, maybe will be replaced with Trig gates where you need trig standings to jump thru them. Maybe the systems will be accessible thru wormholes. NPC stations may be removed too. Basically nothing is standing on the way, CSM have no power. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/67 "2020-09-18T07:00:32Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > I think the empire gates will shut down, maybe will be replaced with Trig gates where you need trig standings to jump thru them. > > Maybe the systems will be accessible thru wormholes. when will we know it for 100% sure? any guess ? few month ? maybe 1 year or 2 ? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/68 "2020-09-18T07:00:53Z")
I think max a month from now. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/69 "2020-09-18T07:02:01Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > I think max a month from now. ok but then what happens next ??? any guess? I mean are they gonna replace it with something else or end of this kind of content ??? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/70 "2020-09-18T07:05:08Z")
I think the situation will only apply to the systems trigs won, like minor and liminality systems. The rest will remain accessible spawning Emerging Conduits. The invasions will stop and there will be a next chapter when people will be able to fight over the trig infested systems by invading them, sort of faction warfare, but thru wormholes and maybe ships with cynos. But its all my speculation. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/71 "2020-09-18T07:09:14Z")
imagine what would happen if the final system that trigs try to invade was Jita lol… it would be biggest space battle in the history of EvE Online with 10,000 or more active players fighting all over Jita non stop lol I would definitely would be there to defend it 100% sure and I think even people that usually dont care would be fighting to defend it… I would just have to take holiday from work or call in sick lol if Jita fallen to trigs imagine how much stuff people would lose altogether (100,000,000b isk) those who only log back in after un-aware of what happened would be trapped in there with their stuff Kappa ---
**Author:** ![Phaakia\_Lohngtiem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaakia_lohngtiem/32/230308_2.png) [@Phaakia\_Lohngtiem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaakia_Lohngtiem)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/72 "2020-09-18T07:16:26Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > I would definitely would be there to defend it 100% sure and I think even people that usually dont care would be fighting to defend it… I don’t care about Jita just like I didn’t care when Niarja fell. I hope it falls in Trigs hands while I twiddle my thumbs and many salty tears ensue. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/73 "2020-09-18T07:17:17Z")
> [@Phaakia\_Lohngtiem](#): > > I don’t care about Jita just like I didn’t care when Niarja fell. I hope it falls in Trigs hands and many salty tears ensue. it may very well be end of EvE Online as we know it xD Kappa ---
**Author:** ![Phaakia\_Lohngtiem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaakia_lohngtiem/32/230308_2.png) [@Phaakia\_Lohngtiem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaakia_Lohngtiem)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/74 "2020-09-18T07:19:24Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > it may very well be end of EvE Online as we know it xD Kappa Yes, then what in the world would I be doing with my life if that happens ? 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/75 "2020-09-18T07:21:33Z")
> [@Phaakia\_Lohngtiem](#): > > Yes, then what in the world would I be doing with my life if that happens ? 🙃 it depends… what do you do in eve mainly ? pvp or pve? missions ? mine? FW pvp ? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/76 "2020-09-18T07:21:47Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > it may very well be end of EvE Online as we know it xD Kappa The weak will leave, the strong will stay. That’s how it’s always been. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/77 "2020-09-18T07:22:32Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > The weak will leave, the strong will stay. That’s how it’s always been. try to play EvE Online with a few people would not be very fun I think 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/78 "2020-09-18T07:24:07Z")
It won’t be a few. Even if the game only has a quarter of its current population left, it will still be quite viable. CCP might have to go into a heavy borrowing phase and/or downsize, but the game will survive. It’s simply **too financially viable** to fail _completely_. The community holdouts could also rally hard. I wouldn’t have a problem dumping _thousands_ of dollars on a community-driven effort to keep the servers up, and other people would do it too. If small teams of fans can keep massive mod projects running without funding, surely we can keep the servers for this game running. ---
**Author:** ![Gabriel\_Eban](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gabriel_eban/32/308946_2.png) [@Gabriel\_Eban](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gabriel_Eban)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/79 "2020-09-18T07:24:57Z")
So CCP is doing “seasons” now? Feels like Guild Wars 2’s “Living Story”, which is crap btw. Diablo does seasons as well as Path of Exile. I wonder if this is the direction CCP is taking. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/80 "2020-09-18T07:25:54Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > It won’t be a few. Even if the game only has a quarter of its current population left, it will still be quite viable. CCP might have to go into a heavy borrowing phase and/or downsize, but the game will survive. It’s simply **too financially viable** to fail _completely_ . I have to disagree with you… Many many many games have shut down completely due to massive number of players leaving their game… I’m not going to name them because I dont think I can ---
**Author:** ![Gabriel\_Eban](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gabriel_eban/32/308946_2.png) [@Gabriel\_Eban](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gabriel_Eban)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/81 "2020-09-18T07:26:17Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > It’s simply **too financially viable** to fail _completely_ . I think you already know this is never true for any business. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/82 "2020-09-18T07:27:56Z")
also less players = less income for CCP the opposite of what they want it just would not make much sense to force your own players to leave… ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/83 "2020-09-18T07:29:18Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > It won’t be a few. Even if the game only has a quarter of its current population left, it will still be quite viable. CCP might have to go into a heavy borrowing phase and/or downsize, but the game will survive. It’s simply **too financially viable** to fail _completely_ . > > I have to disagree with you… Many many many games have shut down completely due to massive number of players leaving their game… I’m not going to name them because I dont think I can Those games were made with lifecycles in mind. There has only been a small amount of truly great projects permanently shutting down through the years, and most of those were owned by big companies that didn’t want to play ball (e.g. SWG). While it _could_ happen to EVE, I don’t _expect_ it to. Heck, CCP probably even has pull with the Icelandic government for bailout help if it comes down to that. I just don’t think that EVE is going to die if a few thousands dumb carebears rage-quit because the Trigs gave them boo-boos, sorry. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576.md?page=5)