# Is it true that NPC stations in high sec are going away? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 17, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576 "2020-09-17T14:32:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/84 "2020-09-18T07:30:49Z")
[Destiny Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted) it would still does not make much sense to do that ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/85 "2020-09-18T07:31:28Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > The invasions will stop and there will be a next chapter when people will be able to fight over the trig infested systems by invading them, sort of faction warfare, but thru wormholes and maybe ships with cynos. I think the Trigs will become another NPC Faction with Agents in those systems offering missions to Kybernauts. Access to those systems will be done through an Abyssal Space Nexus that connects the Trig systems all together. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/86 "2020-09-18T07:32:15Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > The weak will leave, the strong will stay. That’s how it’s always been. The stronk can leave when they want. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/a/8ab0812a36f75f3b69623cf08a2d501d4010dc59.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/87 "2020-09-18T07:32:24Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > I think the Trigs will become another NPC Faction with Agents in those systems offering missions to Kybernauts. Access to those systems will be done through an Abyssal Space Nexus that connects the Trig systems all together. I like this idea 😃 hopeful they do something cool like that it would be like a WH but with a trig twist to it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/88 "2020-09-18T07:35:48Z")
Yeah, the Abyssal Space Nexus would be like a giant w-hole with a bunch of different connections leading to the various Trig systems. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/89 "2020-09-18T07:37:57Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Yeah, the Abyssal Space Nexus would be like a giant w-hole with a bunch of different connections leading to the various Trig systems. I think by far this would be the best followup 😃 maybe with some WH system invasions to mix things up 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Phaakia\_Lohngtiem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaakia_lohngtiem/32/230308_2.png) [@Phaakia\_Lohngtiem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaakia_Lohngtiem)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/90 "2020-09-18T07:38:32Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > it depends… what do you do in eve mainly ? pvp or pve? missions ? mine? FW pvp ? I do a combination of all of that. There are times I cannot do something so I jump on another thing. There’s always something to do in New Eden. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/91 "2020-09-18T07:40:08Z")
> [@Phaakia\_Lohngtiem](#): > > I do a combination of all of that. There are times I cannot do something so I jump on another thing. There’s always something to do in New Eden. if you had to chose between PVP or PVE which one would you do and why? to me: PvP fun but expensive… PvE not so much fun but at least making an income to later blow up in PvP ---
**Author:** ![Phaakia\_Lohngtiem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaakia_lohngtiem/32/230308_2.png) [@Phaakia\_Lohngtiem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaakia_Lohngtiem)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/92 "2020-09-18T07:45:48Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > if you had to chose between PVP or PVE which one would you do and why? I play online games expressly because I don’t have to choose. Most of them give you both. I like both PvP and PvE. I also like offline single-player games so you’re really asking the wrong guy. If it ever comes down to where I have to choose then I’d go back to playing offline single-player games. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/93 "2020-09-18T07:47:12Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > maybe with some WH system invasions to mix things up 😈 Oh good idea, have the random Invasions spawn Drifters who blockade various Trig system connections in the Abyssal Space Nexus. Kybernauts would have to defeat the Drifters in order to keep the Nexus connections open. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/94 "2020-09-18T07:50:24Z")
> [@Katarina\_Neeko](#): > > to me: > > PvP fun but expensive… > PvE not so much fun but at least making an income to later blow up in PvP Try approaching the game from a different perspective. Treat PvP as a profit-making opportunity. I’m not talking about suicide-ganking (although you could if you wanted to). PvP should be a tool you use to achieve some kind of greater goal, not a goal in itself. In my opinion, people who grind money in PvE to go and “spend” it in PvP kind of miss the point. You might discover a whole set of experiences you never thought possible. I did. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/95 "2020-09-18T07:51:53Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Try approaching the game from a different perspective. Treat PvP as a profit-making opportunity. I’m not talking about suicide-ganking (although you could if you wanted to). PvP should be a tool you use to achieve some kind of greater goal, not a goal in itself. In my opinion, people who grind money in PvE to go and “spend” it in PvP kind of miss the point. > > You might discover a whole set of experiences you never thought possible. I did. make money with pvp??? how?? teach me master ^^ ![teach me](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/3/2318d754dec3255bf863ac3e7443edce7fc85bce.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/96 "2020-09-18T07:56:55Z")
Violence, or the threat of, is a necessary part of many financial transactions in EVE. You’ll have to learn how to fight on your own (although feel free to ask questions, and I and other players like myself will give you tips). You can always try the old classic move of catching someone in a belt and ransoming them, although I wouldn’t spend too much time on that these days - the game has _really_ changed from when this was truly viable. Maybe doing it to a wormhole hacking site runner would work better these days? I haven’t tried. But if you, for example, learn the art of harassment, you could do something like camping out in some group’s wormhole (make sure it’s not a dedicated WH PvP outfit, though), and make their lives miserable until they pay you to go away. The first time might take a while, and the price you command might be small, but you’ll gain experience, and will avoid making mistakes and wasteful moves in follow-up attempts. You can also hunt for weak targets, and ransom their stations. Or sit on a gate somewhere and snipe traffic. Lots of ideas. And it goes without saying that this is best done with other like-minded players, so look for a suitable group. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/97 "2020-09-18T08:01:42Z")
[Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/96) can we talk in-game or discord ? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/98 "2020-09-18T08:03:22Z")
Mail me any time, I’ll respond when I’m on. You can also find me on Archer’s Discord, although I don’t go there much anymore because he revoked my right to post anime girls. ---
**Author:** ![Katarina\_Neeko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katarina_neeko/32/316543_2.png) [@Katarina\_Neeko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katarina_Neeko)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/99 "2020-09-18T08:04:48Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Archer’s Discord u got link to discord ? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/100 "2020-09-18T08:06:09Z")
I’ll send you one later today. Remind me if I forget, I sometimes get a little busy… ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/3/633452cd5af3c9adfbce111ba702b0d1b4de4766.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/101 "2020-09-18T10:12:55Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Oh good idea, have the random Invasions spawn _EDENCOM_ who blockade various Trig system connections in the Abyssal Space Nexus. Kybernauts would have to defeat the _EDENCOM_ in order to keep the Nexus connections open. fixed 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![you\_are\_evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/you_are_evil/32/246754_2.png) [@you\_are\_evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/you_are_evil)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/102 "2020-09-18T10:16:47Z")
how would it work if everyone expected profit only from pvp, where would it all come from, how would the purchase of goods (of thin air?) work when your ship goes booom? There must be production and destruction, and in between, liquid assets called currency. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576/103 "2020-09-18T14:04:07Z")
It’s not a thing most people do or even _think_ about doing, so it’s able to exist as a fringe activity/approach to the game. Also, it doesn’t preclude you from doing other things at the same time, such as engaging in more traditional game activities. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-it-true-that-npc-stations-in-high-sec-are-going-away/267576.md?page=6)