# Is Matar hollow ? Sensational claims made

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [April 1, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174 "2018-04-01T11:08:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/21 "2018-04-04T14:07:45Z")

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Funny how a thread about a hollow planet can turn so lewd.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/22 "2018-04-04T17:23:02Z")

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Funny, but, maybe not funny “ha ha.”

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**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/23 "2018-04-04T18:09:10Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> Funny, but, maybe not funny “ha ha.”

Ms. Jenneth, it was _you_ who made the false accusation that I give over to destruction all bloodlines with whom I had carnal knowledge, and so I was forced to defend myself.

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**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/24 "2018-04-04T18:18:52Z")

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> [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](#):
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> When i invited you to repent, it was not about you experiencing pleasure, but closing your eyes during it instead of having them wide open. You wrap yourself in the veils of Maya, entering a loop of pre-conceptions instead of really experiencing.

There is no such thing as _maya_, and Achuran monism generally is a damnable heresy. The True Faith is strictly dualist.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/25 "2018-04-04T18:40:18Z")

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It was mostly a joke, Mr. Nauplius. Just a kind of irritable one.

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**Author:** ![Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morgana_tsukiyo/32/385507_2.png) [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morgana_Tsukiyo)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/26 "2018-04-04T18:43:54Z")

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> [@Nauplius](#):
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> There is no such thing as maya, and Achuran monism generally is a damnable heresy. The True Faith is strictly dualist.

The come to me and i will show you how two become one.

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**Author:** ![LouHodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/louhodo/32/109593_2.png) [@LouHodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LouHodo)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/27 "2018-04-04T19:06:09Z")

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Next thing people will say is that the universe is flat.

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**Author:** ![Rana\_Ash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rana_ash/32/374123_2.png) [@Rana\_Ash](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rana_Ash)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/28 "2018-04-05T08:20:58Z")

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> [@Valerie\_Valate](#):
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> Funny how a thread about a hollow planet can turn so lewd.

It’s because of the holes 😃

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**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/29 "2018-04-05T08:32:44Z")

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> [@Valerie\_Valate](#):
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> Funny how a thread about a hollow planet can turn so lewd.

And I didn’t even have to say anything first!

It is from Gutter Press though, quite frankly I’m surprised it didn’t actually start out lewd and then sink from there…

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/30 "2018-04-05T15:31:59Z")

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1+1=1? That is too perverse even for me I think. 🤔

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/31 "2018-04-07T08:05:04Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> 1+1=1? That is too perverse even for me I think. 🤔

Not really hard to imagine, actually. It all depends on how you define the addition. For example, if I rewrite it as:  
c+c=c, does it look familiar?  
If you have an object, flying relative to you with speed of light ( c ), and you start another object from that object with speed of light ( c ) (relative to that flying object), what will be speed of the second object relative to you? Yep, same speed of light ( c ).

Now, how is it even possible mathematically? Again, very easy: you define addition of speed as v = (v1+v2) / (1+ v1 \* v2/c²) where v1 and v2 are velocities you need to add.  
The speed of light c is rudely approximately 3x10^8 m/s.  
So, if first object moves with speed 2 m/s and other object with speed 3 m/s, you will get:  
v = (2+3 )/ (1+2 \* 3/3²\*10^16) = 5/ (1+ 10^(-16) \* 2/3), but 10^-16 is sooo little number, so you get approximately 5/1 = 5, just like 2+3=5  
But… technically, it will be 4.99999999999999966(6) m/s

Now, here comes fun part. What will be c+c?  
v = c+c/(1+(c\*c)/c²) = (2c)/( 1 + c²/c²) = (2c)/(1+ 1) = 2c/2 = c

Okay, a bit less fun, a half of c and a half of c:  
v = (0.5c + 0.5c)/(1 + 0.5c\*0.5c/c²) = 1c / (1 + 0.5²) = c/1.25 = 0.8c

A bit unexpected, right? And now back to the fun: 0.5c and c:  
v = (0.5c+ c)/(1+0.5c\*c/c²) = 1.5c/(1+0.5) = c

How cool is that?  
Now, lets go further, what will be 1+c, where c is 3x10^8? But we don’t even need to use this large number! Look:  
v = (1 + c)/(1 + 1\*c/c²) = (1+c)/(1+1/c). Well, what is 1+1/c? 1 is c/c, so, 1+1/c = c/c + 1/c = (c+1)/c.  
And thus v = (1+c)/ [(c+1)/c] = c!

Anything you add to c becomes c! Do you like it?  
You both should come to me and I’ll show you way more! 😝

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/32 "2018-04-07T08:21:06Z")

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Well, that is genuinely scary. 😱

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/33 "2018-04-07T09:13:28Z")

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Now, I’m no gynaecologist, but I’m pretty sure if things are approaching at the speed of light, someone’s going to have a bad day.

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**Author:** ![Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morgana_tsukiyo/32/385507_2.png) [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morgana_Tsukiyo)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/34 "2018-04-07T12:34:17Z")

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Now i am thinking about Kim and her Leviathan plushy and me with my Chimera (old version) one.

I want to see you doing math on top of you plushy Kim.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/35 "2018-04-08T04:55:12Z")

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> [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](#):
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> Now i am thinking about Kim and her Leviathan plushy and me with my Chimera (old version) one.

Can be kept much easier just by working in binary (idempotent law in boolean algebra):

1 + 1 = 1  
1 + 1 + 1 = 1  
1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 1  
…  
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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/36 "2018-04-10T17:24:12Z")

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> [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](#):
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> Now i am thinking about Kim and her Leviathan plushy and me with my Chimera (old version) one.
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> I want to see you doing math on top of you plushy Kim.

Easy.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-matar-hollow-sensational-claims-made/67174/37 "2018-07-09T17:24:19Z")

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