# Is mining only done by being in a large corp now? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 4, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929 "2020-01-04T19:54:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/84 "2020-02-20T17:01:23Z")
Okay. Looked them on the database, and you are right. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/85 "2020-02-20T17:02:14Z")
Did it mention they come in sets of 3? ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/86 "2020-02-20T17:02:32Z")
I know they come in sets of 3. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/87 "2020-02-20T17:02:57Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > I believe these are tied to Emerging Conduits and also it may have to do with volume or ore mined. PvE people would know more. Most likely, I am not going to find out though. I really hope CCP will one day change mining into something fun to do, or remove it completly and we are stuck with only the material which are now present in the game … how about that for starvation of resources? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/88 "2020-02-20T17:13:39Z")
From trigs? I haven’t seen anything out of invasion systems that cannot be dealt with by someone who isn’t a new player and not afk. Don’t get me wrong. I’d rather the trigs weren’t there and that the players were allowed to introduce the risk/control that mining needs. But currently ccp are like ‘■■■■ the sandbox. Yay themepark’ So they’re kinda necessary. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/89 "2020-02-20T17:30:20Z")
All I do is mine. That’s literally all I do. On 4 chars. Ok, some days I will spend the whole day ratting for ADMs but other than that - I mine. Well, Krab, but still… Oh yeah - I do the Skilling Spree stuff in NS 1 char at a time. In a Proc on my account mains and in badly fitted, cheap af standard Amarrian cruisers on my PI alts. My. PI. ALTS. Do not try to tell me that your char(s) have ANY problems in a Proc in fkn HS with 4 rats - unless you are AFK-mining. If you are, unlucky & you deserve every explosion. > [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > AFK is not illegal. At not one single point have I even suggested it was. Never. Cos it isn’t. What it is, is a bullsh1t way to “pretend to play a game” so if you’re AFK-mining you are in essence nothing but a bot and bots need to be eradicated. > [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > I know you don’t usually high sec mine… > > Grab a barge and go try “now” no I don’t but I did solidly for long periods each day for months. It was sssooooooooo dull and easy. It was basically “log in, undock barge, launch drones, press f1+f2, make breakfast…” > [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > this is a core new player experience, **solo experience**. Except… you brought your friend with you so you said. > [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > A T1 frigate cannot take those rats, ever. Yes. They can. A half-decently fitted Punny can do them, providing you’re not AFK ofc and the reason for this is that… > [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > new players face rats those rats should be balanced …they are balanced. The lower the sec of a system, the harder the rats hit. Hence, new players starting in 1.0/0.9s are facing the weakest rats they can. If it gets any easier they should go back to Candy Crush and line up 3 shiny things to make a shiny thing shine every few seconds. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/90 "2020-02-20T17:48:39Z")
> [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](#): > > …they are balanced. The lower the sec of a system, the harder the rats hit. Reading this it occurred to me you have no idea what we are talking about. You are talking about belt rats, we are talking about something totally else. These can take a T1 frigate to armor, or even for new players structure, in the opening volley. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/91 "2020-02-20T17:52:21Z")
No. Trig Scouts are also graded by system sec. I genuinely couldn’t give a fk if you want to listen or not but it is a fact. They are EASY if you are not AFK - you run or if you have more skills than a 2-day char you can choose to fight them. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/92 "2020-02-20T17:53:52Z")
> [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](#): > > more skills than a 2-day char you can choose to fight them Theorycrafter Go back to null, bear. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/93 "2020-02-20T17:58:55Z")
Pretty sure “fighting them in a 0.5 then in a 1.0 repeatedly to try to prove the person who told me this wrong and then finding it was true” is more “tested” than “theory” but sure - whatever you say whiner. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/94 "2020-02-20T22:25:43Z")
> [@Karynn\_Denton](#): > > monitoring your survey scanner You mean the survey scanner most mining ships can’t fit due to insufficient slots/pg/cpu for fitting right? > [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > And you don’t think that when new players face rats those rats should be balanced in such a way that the new player has a chance to win? The problem is to make them at that level an experienced player kills them AFK I really am starting to feel that we should start new players in cruisers, and frigates are a ship that requires some training to get into, that way new players start with something with a bit more tank. Then 3 or 4 newbies could fleet together in cruisers and be a far more serious fleet. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/95 "2020-02-20T22:36:21Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > You mean the survey scanner most mining ships can’t fit due to insufficient slots/pg/cpu for fitting right? Get. Some. Fkn. Skills. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/96 "2020-02-20T22:37:30Z")
What skill is there that adds slots onto a ship. What skill is there that gives 5 times it’s base PG. Don’t be stupid, the barges as a whole are lacking in fitting capability. ---
**Author:** ![Hiiro\_Endashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hiiro_endashi/32/187806_2.png) [@Hiiro\_Endashi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hiiro_Endashi)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/97 "2020-02-20T22:38:12Z")
> [@Theron\_Larkis](#): > > And that is exactly what is changing, as it should be. AFK gameplay should not be rewarded, if only to reward active gameplay. Yet at the same time, they’ve added all these NPC corps mining in hisec, which basically eat up all the asteroid belts within easy reach of beginner systems and then just leave their Ventures hanging out in space. This eliminates an easy and (almost) riskless source of income for newbros. And no, I’m not complaining about not being able to AFK mine, but just as week ago this was still possible as long as you had some drones and kept an eye out for randomly spawning rats. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/98 "2020-02-20T22:39:20Z")
PG skills give plenty of PG and same with CPU you certainly do NOT need to multiply the outputs by a factor of 5! Also, if you have the crappy skills you clearly have get some implants. I have no problems at all fitting miners with S-Scanners cos I got some skills. Get. Some. Fkn. Skills. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/99 "2020-02-20T22:44:57Z")
Yeah, Troll less. Barges simply do not have the slots available. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/100 "2020-02-20T22:45:53Z")
If you are mining in anything other than a Skiff, you’re doing it wrong… ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/101 "2020-02-20T22:46:10Z")
They do. Honestly. I have them on my Procs. And Skiffs. And Porps. And Orcas. But I definitely have them on my Procs - cos I’m on the other screen looking a 2 Procs with fkn surveys fitted you bellend. EDIT: What I am looking at on the other screen right now - see the spare PG & CPU? That’s a bloody alt, not even a main too. [[Album] Imgur ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/7/d7585b7597411c43dc482cd3bc8f2be2fd910051.jpeg "Imgur") ](https://imgur.com/a/c8IjhzE) ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/102 "2020-02-20T22:49:21Z")
You all 4 are wrong. Some barges have 1 med slot, only the procurer has 4. Exhumers are different, T2 ships, not a new player ship at all. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929/103 "2020-02-20T22:51:56Z")
So? You have said something that is nothing to do with PG etc. Gj. Besides, what you putting in the mid of a Retty? Small Aze extender? Lul. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-mining-only-done-by-being-in-a-large-corp-now/209929.md?page=6)