# Is owning a freighter really worth it?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 20, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196 "2023-12-20T01:49:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/101 "2023-12-21T00:55:25Z")

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> [@Conrad\_Makbure](#):
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> I am biased though. I mainly have combat SP trained and don’t really see the content in the other stuff like space trucking and mining. That stuff is all a means to an end.

The more successful I’ve seen at this its like the icing to the cap/jf cake.

At that point they…

Know how to move stuff. the cap/jf made it to low/high sec interface and jumped that. and lived the .5 system most low sec interface systems are lol. Amamake gate at times, both sides of it even, can be “fun” times lol.

also they have alt accounts. Cyno(s) was on it. A scout/webber is too.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/102 "2023-12-21T00:56:07Z")

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No. It’s not really worth it.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/103 "2023-12-21T02:25:07Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> I can’t stand doing the same thing for long periods of time. It’s why I’m constantly bouncing around activities in this game.

Same with mining, so I try to change it up with moving to different systems.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/104 "2023-12-21T13:08:08Z")

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> [@Haatokka\_Oni\_Makanen](#):
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> Just in the last 7 days there were 3 ganked freighters in the Forge alone. That’s way too common.

That’s more of a relative thing: if there were 30 freighters flying through the Forge this past week, that’s pretty common. If there were 3,000, then that’s actually rare. So you’d need an idea of the freighter jump numbers to have some perspective on that.

The other things to check would be:

- In what systems? Did those freighters fly through known gank spots?
- With what value and fit? Was the Cargo value/Tank such that they were gank-magnets?
- Were they being auto-piloted?
- At what time of day? What precautions were taken?

etc.

I’ve never freightered, so I can’t say what the risk profile really is. Like you, I find the checklist of “things you need to do to haul with some degree of confidence” to boil down to “not worth the trouble”. That’s why I do my hauling by contracts and let people who know the business handle it.

That said, my hauling contracts are generally picked up quite quickly and 99% of them are delivered safely (and I get the collateral if they aren’t). Obviously _some_ people are making a reliable practice of it.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/105 "2023-12-21T14:53:48Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> We’ve been saying that for awhile…

As long as I am enjoying whatever story I have in my head…I’m playing Eve just right for me. It really doesn’t matter whether others see my activities as epic adventures or not. To me that is the only basis for enjoying a game, and is the answer also to the OP question. And if others try to thwart one’s adventure…which is a perfectly legitimate thing for them to do…that can be added to the epic ‘hero’s story’ too.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/106 "2023-12-21T14:59:47Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> It really doesn’t matter whether others see my activities as epic adventures or not.

It matters to me, and I’m the one who matters most.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/107 "2023-12-21T15:05:12Z")

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Well I agree with the frame of mind…that is what matters most in Eve, above all ships and weapons and mega-corps.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/108 "2023-12-21T15:06:53Z")

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That’s right, Aiko above all.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/109 "2023-12-21T15:38:38Z")

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No, don’t do it.

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**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/110 "2023-12-22T04:52:17Z")

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> [@Haatokka\_Oni\_Makanen](#):
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> Yes I do. I researched the thing very thoroughly as I wrote in the post. I just came in here to discuss it. Because the way it plays now is very frustrating. There are people advocating for low m3, high value, so they love cruising in smaller t2 haulers. But there are some (including me) that really want high m3, low value with chonky freighters. It just gives more industrial sci-fi vibe, at least to me.

Then to you it is worth it to own a freighter. I guess your thread title should’ve been a statement and not a question. EvE has a few huge freighters depending on how much you want to spend.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/111 "2023-12-22T08:03:34Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> [https://red-frog.org](https://red-frog.org)

I too like to suggest Red Frog for high value cargo.

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> That’s right, Aiko above all.

As I recall once trying other **Safety** @Aiko_Danuja channels and am still to this day waiting for my ice to be delivered to Perimeter.

 ![ice-contract](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/4/5/24595c174856828ca02d84e0eb8c5434f66e2835.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/112 "2023-12-22T12:56:02Z")

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> [@Yuki\_Maken](#):
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> Majority of the playerbase thinks that the only acceptable way of playing this **sandbox** game is PVP.

It is.

> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> There’s going to be inherent risk with any profession, aside from ship spinning…

Carpel tunnel, vertigo, and inner ear infections are all documented risks of ship spinning.

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**Author:** ![Bubba123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bubba123/32/449387_2.png) [@Bubba123](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bubba123)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/113 "2024-02-08T01:57:40Z")

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Highsec moon mining in a Retriever. Decent money.

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/114 "2024-02-08T02:46:36Z")

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Depends on how often and how much you haul.

If you consistently haul a lot, then a freighter is worth it.

Or you could simply use an Orca to haul around your items to safe guard being ganked and losing a large haul.

You already have a few gankers watching your comments.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/115 "2024-02-08T02:55:26Z")

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Where is your freighter currently?

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**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/116 "2024-02-08T03:10:27Z")

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My freighter is in my bearhole. It’s my ‘o-crap’ ship.  
If we get sieged and can’t defend, repackage as much as i can, dump it in my dreads and freighter and evac it out in a couple months.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/117 "2024-02-08T03:18:33Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> There’s going to be inherent risk with any profession, aside from ship spinning…

Except if you spin the ship too hard and your mouse then falls on the dog, which rushes outside and bites the postman delivering your £10,000,000 lottery check, who decides to tear it up, thus depriving you of the funds to write your new book ‘The Butterfly Effect’.

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**Author:** ![Izumi\_Sanae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/izumi_sanae/32/438748_2.png) [@Izumi\_Sanae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Izumi_Sanae)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/118 "2024-02-08T03:21:34Z")

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The logic of freigjter ship is too simple.

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**Author:** ![Phaelons\_Zimart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaelons_zimart/32/389524_2.png) [@Phaelons\_Zimart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaelons_Zimart)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/119 "2024-02-08T09:42:20Z")

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i have both normal and JF with the amount of trit i burn through building things i couldnt do it with them…only other way would be to mine it myself and that in itself just brings other risks

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**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-owning-a-freighter-really-worth-it/433196/120 "2024-02-09T00:21:52Z")

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Look at how much you make and how much would really need the freighter.

I once owned a Charon and an orca. At some point I said yeah…Charon was really not needed. Orca has served my hauling needs fine for me. But that was me looking at my needs. Others needs are different.

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