# Is Pandemic Horde going to be OK? aka Making Gucci Knockoffs **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 12, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682 "2025-11-12T00:06:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/1 "2025-11-12T00:06:39Z")
I can see this is a popular topic on Reddit, and the best place to get answers is here on the forums. @Gobbins can you clarify what’s going on? Some people say that you and @Vily ran away, leaving your members to suffer? Is that true? What’s going on over there? The galaxy wonders… ---
**Author:** ![Gealbhan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gealbhan/32/452651_2.png) [@Gealbhan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gealbhan)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/2 "2025-11-12T00:24:15Z")
![who](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/2/7/827097ad4be3d5c3d97d2dee558ee64b072b1f25.gif)🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/3 "2025-11-12T00:39:46Z")
Why r u kicking ppl when they r down ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/4 "2025-11-12T00:41:35Z")
I’m hoping to extract some epic tears from both Gobbins and Vily. I encourage them to come here and just have a full meltdown. Or they could at least explain to the EvE community why they chose to evacuate their assets without regard for their membership. When will people learn? **TAPI/PAPI? - That’s a scam!** 🤔 At least Asher bought a mining permit. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/515700_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/5 "2025-11-12T01:04:38Z")
Forum PvP is her thing or hadn’t you noticed? I doubt anyone hasn’t heard of Pandemic Horde or Goonswarm. However to clue in new players in the audience or @Gealbhan those with their head under a rock; Both Pandemic Horde and Goonswarm are huge mega corps out in null space that fight over turf. Pandemic Horde lost a siege and well… a lot people grabbed their assets and ran. Apparently this won’t affect me in the least. But there is some unclaimed turf now out in null. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/6 "2025-11-12T02:18:45Z")
Do you think that these people will ever feel bad about what they did? They betrayed thousands of people that trusted them. They were trusted so much, that even in the final desparate moments of the siege, their people were still willing to die for them. These guys were worshipped like gods. And they sacrificed it all. A bond that they will never experience again. All of that, for a handful of baubles and toys. Hahahaha!! With rich regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_infomorph/32/489149_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Infomorph)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/7 "2025-11-12T02:55:32Z")
> [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > These guys were worshipped like gods. Says more about Horde than it does about Gobbins. ---
**Author:** ![Gealbhan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gealbhan/32/452651_2.png) [@Gealbhan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gealbhan)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/8 "2025-11-12T03:01:23Z")
Ah, I know who PH is. I was living in their space 6 years before they were even formed. Now, if you’ll excuse me… ![under-a-rock-hiding-3216827747](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/5/b/f5bc0e47bd586078fc6a501f4cbc562588c82f4c.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoutin_on_empty/32/479066_2.png) [@Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoutin_On_Empty)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/9 "2025-11-12T09:08:17Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > people say that you and @Vily ran away ![1000007708](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/e/8/7e81a85d4f4afa1e71ef08a7d642dbe38d20d3ed.gif) > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > leaving your members to suffer? “Pandamic Horde” Haaaaa-hahahaha!!! ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/11 "2025-11-12T10:40:18Z")
> [@Adada\_Tuesday](#): > > Why r u kicking ppl when they r down Anyone who can afford to lose 245bn in a shuttle is way more ‘up’ than 99% of the players in EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/515700_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/12 "2025-11-12T11:00:01Z")
Frankly, I am not that stupid, to put **everything** in one shuttle to flee. I would have at least used Pochven as a transit escape route. Assuming they didn’t get blasted exiting the station, I would have warped to a moon used a filament and docked and dumped at any Pochven NPC station. Or am I unaware of something else stopping them? Asset safety work for them? I don’t live out in null. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/13 "2025-11-12T11:07:23Z")
trillions of isk got destroyed or are now locked behind asset safety in low sec, lol. moving all that stuff back to horde space will be an operation in itself. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolfgang_jannesen/32/496726_2.png) [@Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolfgang_Jannesen)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/14 "2025-11-12T11:09:29Z")
Its okay if they aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/15 "2025-11-12T11:22:06Z")
Those BPs was stolen and they were worth more than that 🤷 ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/16 "2025-11-12T11:36:25Z")
> [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > They betrayed thousands of people that trusted them. Sounds like a Great Political Scam.. 😁 .. Welcome to Eve.. Seems Goons and Horde had a deal behind close doors. I wouldn’t be surprise if there’s RMT in the process.. haha.. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/17 "2025-11-12T13:29:21Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > @Vily ran away, leaving your members to suffer? Wouldn’t be the first time for him. ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/18 "2025-11-12T14:10:23Z")
If you include the **PanFam** coalition, the number is well over 15,000. I agree with @Aiko_Danuja, @Gobbins and Vily should have to face the music publicly. All they had to do was engage with their titans on the 1st day, and we’d be laughing at the Goons instead. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/6/e/26e771ae51415a78fb1f7e33166b344053d6471c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/19 "2025-11-12T14:12:04Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > May they punch each other in real life. I’m pretty sure that actual calls for violence are against the forum rules. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/20 "2025-11-12T14:12:09Z")
Embarrassing! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682/21 "2025-11-12T14:30:54Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > are against the forum rules Pretty sure that you do not have a funny bone in your entire body [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-pandemic-horde-going-to-be-ok-aka-making-gucci-knockoffs/500682.md?page=2)