# Is Safety dying? Update: Safety is now officially an ANTIGANKING alliance! **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 5, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609 "2025-03-05T22:24:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/1 "2025-03-05T22:24:18Z")
> **[Safety. | Alliance](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99010569/kills/)** > > Safety.: 127,430 ships destroyed and 54,117 ships lost. Is Safety dying? Its only like 2 dudes now killing ships worth ganking, the rest of the kills look like MTUs and other worthless kills? Is the age of ganking over? I was watching on Uedama Scout and in local, and Princess Aiko is antiganking, despite making a thread called “Why antigank?” As someone who webs their Freighters through Uedama, Safety has never caught me once and now it looks like they are imploding, I am saving all the local chat logs from local, looks like gankers are reducing themselves to tears in local haha Looks like miners and haulers are about to win big! Most of their kills are ventures / MTUs now, so just be careful if you have those out! Thankyou Safety for helping us Antigank, looks like Antigankers win again! ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/2 "2025-03-05T22:33:32Z")
They literally just ganked a 17 billion ISK freighter a few hours ago. And there are far more ganking groups than just Safety… ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/3 "2025-03-05T22:37:36Z")
So no, ganking is still alive and well. You still have The Conference Elite and Novus Ordo to deal with, just to name two… ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/4 "2025-03-05T23:30:28Z")
> [@Moving\_Man](#): > > Most of their kills are ventures / MTUs now, Really? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/7/4/3748974465dc3000563f452a46859ec4d80a197b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/5 "2025-03-05T23:36:41Z")
Pandemic Horde killed about 100b in Hisec Ganking in the last week, can’t believe PH does better than “professional” ganking corps! Haha ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/6 "2025-03-05T23:38:20Z")
100 billion in a week? That’s cute. Safety killed over 20 billion just today… ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/7 "2025-03-05T23:46:37Z")
You do know that everyone on this forum has access to Zkill, right? Just from a quick glance, Safety has killed approximately 300 billion ISK worth of ships in the past 7 days… ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/8 "2025-03-05T23:47:36Z")
Doesn’t fit his narrative though ---
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/9 "2025-03-05T23:51:40Z")
And mark that 300b against the likes of CODE and what SAFETY used to do years ago ---
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/10 "2025-03-05T23:54:11Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > The Conference Elite and Novus Ordo to deal with, just to name two… I just checked and those and yeah those two alliances, Novus Ordo and Conference Elite both have double the ganks as Safety lately So it seems like ganking is still high… just Safety is not doing so well compared to the others Interesting! I’ll contine to anti-gank with Aiko and see if we can reduce all these ganks closer to zero ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/11 "2025-03-06T00:01:28Z")
As long as geniuses continue to haul tens of billions of ISK through Uedama to Jita, and mine AFK, it will continue… ---
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/12 "2025-03-06T02:22:11Z")
> **[Blackbird | Aiko Danuja | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/125285803/)** > > Aiko Danuja (Tsundere Death Squad) lost their Blackbird in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Nuke'n Run (The Brotherhood Of Grim) flying in a Hecate. Total Value: 29,227,129.89 ISK I’ve been helping Aiko antigank today and we have stopped about 6 Freighter ganks Antigankers WIN again ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/13 "2025-03-06T17:20:04Z")
AIKO does not kill whore but you most certainly do **anti ganker** ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/14 "2025-03-06T21:14:34Z")
this is some gamer move ---
**Author:** ![Mary\_Forcades](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mary_forcades/32/472756_2.png) [@Mary\_Forcades](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mary_Forcades)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/15 "2025-03-06T23:27:39Z")
BUSHKITTYY! \<3 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/16 "2025-03-06T23:46:44Z")
Looks like a bunch of Corps have left Safety lately ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/3/4/83440b4ee8db99463afa5a420e63639651688965.png) AIKO confirmed to be kicking out ganking corps because she is now Antiganking? This is amazing! I am so glad the gankers are getting kicked out, it never made sense that an alliance called SAFETY wasnt keeping people SAFE Now it is! Praise AG Aiko Antigankers win non stop daily =) ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2025, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/17 "2025-03-06T23:52:31Z")
now antigankers will finally win then? ---
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/18 "2025-03-07T00:05:39Z")
Antigankers will ALWAYS win in the long run > **[F.L.Y. S.A.F.E. | Corporation](https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98777966/)** > > F.L.Y. S.A.F.E.: 2,647 ships destroyed and 210 ships lost. Billions of ISK worth of GANKER SHIPS destroyed and trillions of ISK in freighter cargo saved ---
**Author:** ![Phat\_Phil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phat_phil/32/452625_2.png) [@Phat\_Phil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phat_Phil)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/19 "2025-03-07T00:30:18Z")
Looks like the gankers that were the most cringe are quitting as I return back to the game. Aiko is running from my skill, she knows she never had a chance against me after that honorable 1v1 we had: > **[Catalyst | Aiko Danuja | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99369554/)** > > Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) lost their Catalyst in Sankkasen (The Citadel). Final Blow by Phat Phil (New Eden Police Force) flying in a Atron. Total Value: 1,498,678.32 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Moko\_Musana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moko_musana/32/373694_2.png) [@Moko\_Musana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moko_Musana)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/20 "2025-03-07T03:11:52Z")
> [@Moving\_Man](#): > > Is Safety dying? Its only like 2 dudes now killing ships worth ganking, the rest of the kills look like MTUs and other worthless kills? Safety’s job is to provide dignity to the miner, whether he is flying a shuttle or a marauder. If it was dying, then it was dying because it was wasting too much time prioritizing high value miners, at the expense of not providing dignity to the other miners. > [@Moving\_Man](#): > > Looks like miners and haulers are about to win big! The victory of the miner is to provide an expensive lossmail, for zkill to record he could afford it. > [@Moving\_Man](#): > > Most of their kills are ventures / MTUs now, so just be careful if you have those out! This “killmail value” and “isk possitive engagement” talk proves you’re the alt of a nullseccer. > [@Moving\_Man](#): > > Thankyou Safety for helping us Antigank, looks like Antigankers win again! Safety has always been helping you by providing opportunities to whore on easy killmails. This whole crying sounds to me like antigank is being mad that safety wrecking miners in a less predictable fashion has left antigank, that was used to camp the same gates all day long, without easy kills on said gates, and now that they have to travel to other stargates, or even to mining grids to be able to whore on killmails, antigank are overchallenged, and wish for Safety to come back to Uedama and farm the gate there for them. > [@Phat\_Phil](#): > > Looks like the gankers that were the most cringe are quitting as I return back to the game. Aiko is running from my skill, she knows she never had a chance against me after that honorable 1v1 we had: > > [Catalyst | Aiko Danuja | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/99369554/) Honorable 1v1 you had? You meant to write “after I whored on concord’s killmail”? Not even half of that cattie was wrecked by you, and most likely it would have been wrecked in the same second had you not interfered. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609.md?page=2)