# Is Safety dying? Update: Safety is now officially an ANTIGANKING alliance! **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 5, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609 "2025-03-05T22:24:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/42 "2025-03-07T21:59:46Z")
The life of a webber who sometimes forgets to set the duels up correctly! Luckily I only web through the 0.5s so I am still safe there and get to AG at the same time! edit: That’s my free tip for everyone, if you have a webber (rapier or vigil fleet) and web your freighter into warp, it messes with the gankers! Just make sure to set up the duel request correctly with your freighter or you will get concorded like me!) Also check here for a site with more helpful Antigank tips! > **[Griffin anti-ganking how-to](https://griffin.guru/)** ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/43 "2025-03-08T04:06:45Z")
Thank you for your kind introduction. I have decided to set an example for @Dracvlad @DrysonBennington @Knowledgeminer and others, serving the community as both leader of the gankers and the antigankers. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/44 "2025-03-08T04:32:33Z")
Thank you for the clarification ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/45 "2025-03-08T05:21:17Z")
Ganking permits start at 1 billion isk. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/46 "2025-03-08T14:10:07Z")
> [@Moving\_Man](#): > > Antigankers will ALWAYS win in the long run LOL. Yes…you win this year’s Labotomy Awards, which go to anyone who can circle the Uedama/Sivala gate for 8 hours continuously. I mean, anything that makes even mining look exciting definitely deserves an award. And isn’t your name a bit ironic for people who don’t ever actually ‘move’. I mean, there’s me doing over 100 jumps a day quite often…while you anti-gankers sit on one gate. ---
**Author:** ![Angewoman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/angewoman/32/425566_2.png) [@Angewoman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Angewoman)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/47 "2025-03-08T15:27:44Z")
You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/48 "2025-03-08T16:14:11Z")
> [@Angewoman](#): > > You either die a hero Are you saying tha **t Goofus** the miner was a hero? ---
**Author:** ![Angewoman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/angewoman/32/425566_2.png) [@Angewoman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Angewoman)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/49 "2025-03-08T16:54:11Z")
No. Aiko. Hero now villian ---
**Author:** ![Moko\_Musana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moko_musana/32/373694_2.png) [@Moko\_Musana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moko_Musana)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/50 "2025-03-08T17:17:46Z")
It’s a junk fit. The Blackbird has no bonus on Burst Jamming, and whatever tank it has doesn’t matter cause it’s gonna get concorded if it uses it while the “target” of the dessies is in range to it, so it could just as well be an ibis with a burst jammer, the effect would be the same. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/51 "2025-03-08T17:22:34Z")
> [@Angewoman](#): > > No. Aiko. Hero now villian Really? Was sure you meant **Goofus** ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/52 "2025-03-08T23:28:00Z")
Her Blackbird is awesome. The fit’s all speed, cloaking, there’s some tank to handle kill-rights runners. The main strength is definitely the burst range, it lets the burst embrace the catalyst blob sonner without requiring too much effort for right positioning. The quicker you burst, the more DPS you strip from attackers. The Griffin doesn’t have the burst bonus, and no one’s gonna use a Kitsune because how rare they are in the market, there’s barely any for sale, that’s how a pvper should start the line of though: supply chain. This fit is super well thought out because she just knows her stuff, people should humble themselves start learning antiganking with her ---
**Author:** ![Moko\_Musana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moko_musana/32/373694_2.png) [@Moko\_Musana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moko_Musana)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/53 "2025-03-08T23:39:11Z")
> [@Jabali\_Javee](#): > > Her Blackbird is awesome. The fit’s all speed, cloaking, there’s some tank to handle kill-rights runners. The main strength is definitely the burst range Sounds unconvincing. An ibis moves twice as fast, has faster alignment, can equally cloak if required, noone activates killrights on ibis, and it has the same burst range and strength as the blackbird. > [@Jabali\_Javee](#): > > The Griffin doesn’t have the burst bonus, and no one’s gonna use a Kitsune Which burst bonus are you talking about? A Blackbird has no burst bonus, either, nor has a Kitsune. > [@Jabali\_Javee](#): > > supply chain Again, Ibis supply is infinite. It also has the advantage of having no rig slots that can be used to reduce tank by fitting useless rigs that have the side effect of reducing tank. Also, the Halaima Code asks Highseccers to show some dedication to their tasks by sacrificing expensive ships: Want to ECM Burst? The only ships in the game bonused for ECM bursting are Scorpions and Widows. Dunk a Scorpions and Widows to safe the miners, or aren’t they worth a scorpion to you? ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/54 "2025-03-09T00:05:52Z")
Sigh… ---
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/55 "2025-03-09T00:20:36Z")
Luckily it looks like only one corp in Safety is capable of taking down Freighters now! And I have been sent some evemails saying that corp will probably be kicked out within the next month because they won’t comply with new antiganking rules This might be one of the best character arcs in Eve history! Becoming the Savior of Miners everywhere, AIKO is an AG Princess! ---
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/56 "2025-03-09T00:22:33Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > LOL. Yes…you win this year’s Labotomy Awards, which go to anyone who can circle the Uedama/Sivala gate for 8 hours continuously. I mean, anything that makes even mining look exciting definitely deserves an award. Sitting in Uedama for 8hours antiganking and protecting many trillions in freighter cargo is one of the highest skill level activities in the game, hence why Aiko is one of the only few to be able to consistently pull it off! > **[Blackbird | Aiko Danuja | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/125348353/)** > > Aiko Danuja (Tsundere Death Squad) lost their Blackbird in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by stargazers carebear (Emergency Temporal Shift.) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 29,197,881.33 ISK From today, another 50b freighter saved! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/57 "2025-03-09T00:26:30Z")
Apparently loyalanon isn’t logging in anymore, now that he knows we have decided to Make Uedama Scary Again (MUSA)! 🇺🇲 🎉 ---
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/58 "2025-03-09T00:29:55Z")
CCP is scared of Aiko and other AG ships they are NERFING Burst Jammers! [https://www.instagram.com/p/DG83-FSMJJr/](https://www.instagram.com/p/DG83-FSMJJr/) It’s very interesting that once the princess of AG starts using them, they get taken away from us! CCP are terrified of us AG You will not stop us Antigankers always win ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/59 "2025-03-09T00:31:26Z")
I’m currently cloaked up on the Sivala gate. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/c/b/9cb9f5b9c87a72548d028933d575a792ced874c2.png) Uedama is a SAFE space! ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/60 "2025-03-09T04:48:51Z")
> [@Moving\_Man](#): > > Antigankers always win Lol…you haven’t a hope in hell should I decide to start wasting my vast fortune. ---
**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 4:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/61 "2025-03-09T04:49:45Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Lol…you haven’t a hope in hell should I decide to start wasting my vast fortune. Goodluck, we have Safety on our side now [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609.md?page=4)