# Is Safety dying? Update: Safety is now officially an ANTIGANKING alliance!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [March 5, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609 "2025-03-05T22:24:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/84 "2025-03-10T22:38:01Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> Let’s just set the record straight that as long as Aiko and her ways focus on preventing Ganks inside Uedama but stealing the loot.

I’ve moved a whole bunch of ships to Uedama with the aim of ganking the anti-gankers. Probably at a relatively small loss. I just hate the way those Griffins sit their with an air of ‘I’m way too cheap for anyone to bother ganking’ …well, they are not 🙂

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/85 "2025-03-10T22:44:59Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> It was hard not to notice, as one of your containers uncloaked my Tengu.

🤭 🍿 😊

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/86 "2025-03-10T23:06:23Z")

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The Frostpackers have been warned about space littering

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**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/87 "2025-03-11T02:12:58Z")

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I notice some other Safety characters are still playing with “Rafa Q”, would you like me to list their names so you can purge them from your alliance?

Happy to help out

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/88 "2025-03-11T04:54:30Z")

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Where is loyalanon (aka Rafa Quinterro)?

Is he still ganking after his permaban?

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**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/89 "2025-03-11T04:58:04Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Where is loyalanon (aka Rafa Quinterro)?

Looks like he is ganking with Safety members

> **[Rhea | Hel Arrives | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/125264397/)**
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> Hel Arrives (Totoro Time) lost their Rhea in Jita (The Forge). Final Blow by Nado 18 Hawk (Clipped Wingz) flying in a Oracle. Total Value: 17,103,887,011.71 ISK

I hope you do something about these sympathizers within your alliance,

Another Corp to boot to purge the scum!

AG will not stand for it and AG always wins!

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/90 "2025-03-11T04:59:10Z")

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> [@Moving\_Man](#):
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> Looks like he is ganking with Safety members

That would be a EULA violation.

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**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/91 "2025-03-11T05:03:25Z")

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I agree, so why is Safety aiding and abetting an Eve fugitive?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/92 "2025-03-11T05:16:04Z")

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If you are concerned about the permabanned player loyalanon continuing to grief in EvE Online, via his character Rafa Quinterro, I encourage you to file a support ticket. As stated, I have already removed loyal and the neo-Nazis from my alliance.

[https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us)

Thanks for your interest in Safety alliance.

🚀

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**Author:** ![Moving\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/moving_man/32/452483_2.png) [@Moving\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Moving_Man)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/93 "2025-03-11T05:21:26Z")

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Hey i just checked and [Clipped Wingz] still looks like its in Safety and ganks with the people you want banned. As alliance leader can you confirm you have you asked Clipped Wingz to no longer associate with neo-Nazis?

(concerning)

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/94 "2025-03-11T05:29:21Z")

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@CCP_Swift @ISD_Drew

There is no need for this thread to continue. I have addressed the OP’s original question, regarding why I kicked the permabanned players loyalanon (Rafa Quinterro) and globby (CODE Permit Enforcer) and BigNoseRabbi (renamed to Mining Permit Agent) from my alliance.

At this point, I will just keep repeating the same facts in response to any further questions. I refer you to support ticket #2330876, and suggest this thread be closed pending CCP’s ongoing investigations. I also encourage you to review ticket #1382749, further noting the language used by GM Arcade (April 18, 2016?) in his original explanation of the ban “the circumstances [are] distasteful in the extreme…” and Arcade goes on to describe the “abhorrent” disciplinary history which led to a real-life murder-suicide. I can send you a copy of this, if you cannot find it.

You may also find my official public statement here: [Is Safety dying? Update: Safety is now officially an ANTIGANKING alliance! - #78](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/78) which I will gladly send to anybody who wishes to read it.

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**Author:** ![Schnarph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/schnarph/32/374719_2.png) [@Schnarph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Schnarph)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/95 "2025-03-11T05:47:25Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> At this point, I will just keep repeating the same facts in response to any further questions. I refer you to support ticket #2330876, and suggest this thread be closed pending CCP’s ongoing investigations. I also encourage you to review ticket #1382749, noting the language used by GM Arcade in his original explanation of the ban “the circumstances [are] distasteful in the extreme…” and Arcade goes on to describe the “abhorrent” disciplinary history which led to a real-life murder-suicide. I can send you a copy of this, if you cannot find it.
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> You may find my official public statement here: [Is Safety dying? Update: Safety is now officially an ANTIGANKING alliance! - #78](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/78) which I will gladly send to anybody who wishes to read it.

O7 Aiko

Would you be so kind to send me details about the GM Arcade ticket and i would love to read your official public statement.

Thanks and have a good day.

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**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/96 "2025-03-11T07:20:50Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> globby (CODE Permit Enforcer)

Oh I didn’t know globby was up to no good. Was always very helpful when I interacted with him as a new player. I even recommended that he join ISD once since breaking the game seemed to be his thing and that’s when I first found out ganking was very controversial.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/97 "2025-03-11T11:34:24Z")

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> [@Salartarium](#):
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> I even recommended that he join ISD

🙄

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/98 "2025-03-11T14:37:49Z")

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> [@Salartarium](#):
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> breaking the game seemed to be his thing

Yes, I believe he was banned for CONCORD manipulation, RMT, and harassment.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/99 "2025-03-11T21:46:06Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-safety-dying-update-safety-is-now-officially-an-antiganking-alliance/478609/100 "2025-03-11T21:46:22Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
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