# Is the corax the worst ship in the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Tags:** pvp\ **Created:** [February 9, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276 "2018-02-09T15:43:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Caleb\_Seremshur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caleb_seremshur/32/399348_2.png) [@Caleb\_Seremshur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caleb_Seremshur)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/1 "2018-02-09T15:43:06Z")
No I’m not being facetious. I have never ever seen a single fit that wasn’t complete trash. What other destroyers out there have as little dps and utility as the Corax? Even the humble catalyst evokes fear in the bads, the corax is the ultimate feeder ship. Can someone please provide a fit that doesnt cost 100mil which isn’t total garbage and can actually engage and win against its intended target (t1 frigs)? There are t1 frigs out there with more dps, more flexible damage type, more speed and more tank than this destroyer. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/2 "2018-02-09T15:51:22Z")
Wow, the corax is having horrible success on Zkill lots more solo death than solo kills but, there is some really great kills maybe there is a fit that is good: [https://zkillboard.com/kill/67568079/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/67568079/) Kill/Fit [https://zkillboard.com/kill/67622921/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/67622921/) [https://zkillboard.com/kill/67908936/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/67908936/) Kill/Fit [https://zkillboard.com/kill/67908980/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/67908980/) [https://zkillboard.com/kill/67826422/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/67826422/) Kill/Fit Try those 2 fit’s see if they work for you. ---
**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/3 "2018-02-09T15:58:50Z")
I know I cringe when I try to help out a rookie (in rookie help or the epic arc) who went with the corax. With minmatar and amarr I go “oh, I don’t have a ton of experience with your destroyers, but here’s how to put together a basic loadout” and with gallente I say “that sure is a loadout, it has modules and everything, but here’s how to win fights.” ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/4 "2018-02-09T18:49:55Z")
We should ask our fearless frigate and destroyer master pilot: ---
**Author:** ![Akuma\_Tsukai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akuma_tsukai/32/153763_2.png) [@Akuma\_Tsukai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akuma_Tsukai)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/5 "2018-02-10T01:10:09Z")
Its a pretty usual rocket brawler, dunno what’s so bad about it. As long as you don’t fit lml on it for solo pvp you should at least be able to put up a fight. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/6 "2018-02-10T08:17:27Z")
6 weapon disruptors, 4 webs, a 1600mm plate and you are good to go. ---
**Author:** ![Matthias\_Ancaladron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/matthias_ancaladron/32/128799_2.png) [@Matthias\_Ancaladron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Matthias_Ancaladron)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/7 "2018-02-10T09:50:15Z")
Dragoon tho. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/8 "2018-02-10T12:57:51Z")
The Dragoon got a nice buff recently. She is not terrible anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Piugattuk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/piugattuk/32/292316_2.png) [@Piugattuk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Piugattuk)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/9 "2018-02-10T13:42:42Z")
I don’t know, I think the rifter has taken that title. ---
**Author:** ![Sebs\_Pride](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebs_pride/32/181192_2.png) [@Sebs\_Pride](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebs_Pride)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/10 "2018-02-10T15:52:25Z")
You might have to ask cal mil, my nul sec corp has had its roam ended by a corax condor doc a few times ---
**Author:** ![Caleb\_Seremshur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caleb_seremshur/32/399348_2.png) [@Caleb\_Seremshur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caleb_Seremshur)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/11 "2018-02-12T00:21:18Z")
[Corax, Corax rockets] Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Medium Shield Extender II X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler 1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I I’m currently experimenting with this fit. It requires a pg implant to fit, otherwise it seems… thoroughly mediocre. At least you get full dps to 9km ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/12 "2018-02-12T01:18:14Z")
And if you use the s-9 regolith extender? ---
**Author:** ![Caleb\_Seremshur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caleb_seremshur/32/399348_2.png) [@Caleb\_Seremshur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caleb_Seremshur)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/13 "2018-02-14T13:23:26Z")
Dunno, haven’t tried it. The PG implant is only worth 5 mil so its a non-issue tbqh. I got some decent kills with my latest corax, it seems like people sperg when they see one on scan and bumrush to fight it ---
**Author:** ![Caleb\_Seremshur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caleb_seremshur/32/399348_2.png) [@Caleb\_Seremshur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caleb_Seremshur)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/14 "2018-02-14T13:28:47Z")
If this ship just had +1pg and +10cpu it would be SO much better and able to do its job. Firstly you’d be able to fit a t2 scam and t2 AB which would make a huge difference to the engagement profile of the ship. I’m not even looking for a buff to hp or dps, in terms of those stats at least the fit is semi-competent. As long as you don’t be a tard and warp in to zero on a gun ship you stand a good chance of winning. ---
**Author:** ![Caleb\_Seremshur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caleb_seremshur/32/399348_2.png) [@Caleb\_Seremshur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caleb_Seremshur)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/15 "2018-02-18T00:44:42Z")
So i have managed to find another fit that seems worth testing [Corax, Corax rockets v1c] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender 1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Core Defense Field Extender I There’s really not much that can be said here, this is the fit which suits EXPERTS at range control. If you aren’t an EXPERT then DO NOT fly this fit. It has substantially less ehp and a particular weakness to EM (obviously) however if you pick your fights correctly and range control like a king you will be dropping some very heavy dps at ranges your opponent can’t respond to. The TTK for several fits drops by a whole 7 seconds which is tremendous at this ship size where every second in combat pushes you closer to death and further from victory. ---
**Author:** ![Fox\_Ranger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fox_ranger/32/105753_2.png) [@Fox\_Ranger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fox_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/16 "2018-02-18T17:26:20Z")
I find that the Corax having the reputation as being a bad ship is a bonus. With a scram web and rage rockets punching a over zealous frigate or destroyer in the face is something of a thing of beauty. It’s not a win all fights kinda ship so you’re more likely to get a favorable engagement in it. It’s slow so if you can’t get a scram and web on your target you can find yourself kited out range control is critical. In the end if I can get some good fights in a cheap ship it’s worth a look. ---
**Author:** ![Akuma\_Tsukai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akuma_tsukai/32/153763_2.png) [@Akuma\_Tsukai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akuma_Tsukai)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/17 "2018-02-19T02:12:23Z")
It also allows some ridiculous fits with lml, those look good in killboards 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Caleb\_Seremshur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caleb_seremshur/32/399348_2.png) [@Caleb\_Seremshur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caleb_Seremshur)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/18 "2018-02-19T19:17:01Z")
corax can alpha frigates in 2 volleys. i used to use an LML fit in the old FW meta where atrons were extremely common and it was an easy way to harvest idiots. ---
**Author:** ![Trajan\_Unknown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trajan_unknown/32/257489_2.png) [@Trajan\_Unknown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trajan_Unknown)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/19 "2018-02-20T10:44:00Z")
Range control and Corax in one sentence? Can I have a sip of whatever you´re smoking please? 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276/20 "2018-02-20T14:08:46Z")
he’s smokin atrons 😉 [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-corax-the-worst-ship-in-the-game/56276.md?page=2)