# Is the Enforcer bad? I think so. This is my idea **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [June 24, 2017, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-enforcer-bad-i-think-so-this-is-my-idea/6598 "2017-06-24T07:58:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![michaeltward](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michaeltward/32/376087_2.png) [@michaeltward](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/michaeltward)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-enforcer-bad-i-think-so-this-is-my-idea/6598/21 "2017-07-11T07:01:33Z")
> [@Cristl](#): > > That’s a very old link for me bemoaning the state of the Muninn in 2008, so good luck with your request A whole team just got permanently put on working on ship balance. Let’s just hope the Munin get’s a look in. One can hope. ---
**Author:** ![Cade\_Windstalker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade_windstalker/32/221037_2.png) [@Cade\_Windstalker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade_Windstalker)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-enforcer-bad-i-think-so-this-is-my-idea/6598/22 "2017-07-11T14:37:18Z")
> [@michaeltward](#): > > I still have problems with how it is because currently the only niche it fills is a ■■■■ ship that can warp around cloaked. > > There is literally no reason to use it. Because if you are able to use it it’s likely that you can fly other recons and they do the job leaps and bounds better than that ship could do in it’s current state. I disagree? The rep bonus isn’t bad and the EWar range bonuses are quite powerful. Plus the fact that it has a cloak means that it can afford to only pick fights it thinks it can win under most circumstances. IMO that meets the criteria for ‘fun to fly’ even if it’s not the best option all the time. Plus looking at the zKill stats the ship isn’t doing _that_ badly, even if you factor in that a lot of the use it’s seeing right now is shiggles fights. ---
**Author:** ![Frostys\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frostys_virpio/32/12703_2.png) [@Frostys\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frostys_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-enforcer-bad-i-think-so-this-is-my-idea/6598/23 "2017-07-11T17:17:44Z")
> [@michaeltward](#): > > I still have problems with how it is because currently the only niche it fills is a ■■■■ ship that can warp around cloaked. In the introduction thread, I asked a question about where they saw the ship should fit in balance wise since the bonus was a way to make balance prediction bad and I got the answer that they though it was ok for it to end on the underpowered side of balance because it was a reward ship. It being slightly bad right now is pretty much by design I would assume. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-enforcer-bad-i-think-so-this-is-my-idea/6598/24 "2017-07-13T10:21:45Z")
> [@michaeltward](#): > > A whole team just got permanently put on working on ship balance. Let’s just hope the Munin get’s a look in. > One can hope. Source? ---
**Author:** ![Cade\_Windstalker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade_windstalker/32/221037_2.png) [@Cade\_Windstalker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade_Windstalker)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-enforcer-bad-i-think-so-this-is-my-idea/6598/25 "2017-07-13T14:23:50Z")
> [@zluq\_zabaa](#): > > Source? Latest Youtube video from Seagull on what’s going on with Eve. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-enforcer-bad-i-think-so-this-is-my-idea/6598/26 "2017-07-13T17:14:25Z")
> [@Cade\_Windstalker](#): > > Latest Youtube video from Seagull on what’s going on with Eve. Ah thanks. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-enforcer-bad-i-think-so-this-is-my-idea/6598.md?page=1)