# Is the nightmare still a good mission ship?

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**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [March 29, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-nightmare-still-a-good-mission-ship/149366 "2019-03-29T19:37:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-nightmare-still-a-good-mission-ship/149366/9 "2019-04-24T14:57:45Z")

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> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#):
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> Is a Nightmare more fun to use than a Raven Navy issue?

I started L4 missions with a Raven (well, a Drake, but that was no good, so went back to L3s till I could Raven properly). Then upgraded to Raven Navy, and now use Nightmare.

I’d say the Nightmare is more fun than a Raven, because there’s no waiting time for the missiles to arrive everything within range dies real fast, and there’s little use for drones as you can kill everything as it closes in on you. Using Tachs so pretty much _everything_ is in range 🙂

The fit I use is listed [here](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/succubus-phantasm-nightmare/113377/4)

May consider a Mach (travel time in a BS isn’t fun) or Golem (lazy mode) if I ever get back into L4s.

Regards,  
Cypr3ss.

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