# Is the Non-Capsuleer Log-Off Timer too long for hunters? **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [January 31, 2022, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890 "2022-01-31T05:18:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/1 "2022-01-31T05:18:09Z")
Only way to catch bots is to log off asap on their site. At the very least make it 35 seconds before npcs attack. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/2 "2022-01-31T05:30:11Z")
Just build up your standings with the NPCs. ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/3 "2022-01-31T05:57:30Z")
How does it work exactly. I don’t PvE ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/4 "2022-01-31T13:41:56Z")
The moment an NPC hits you the timer of 15mins starts. Same with pvp. The moment a player hits you a 15min combat timer starts. HOWEVER, the weapons timer of 1min is dependent on if you shoot back. As a ship can tank a gate camp and slowly make it to get and eventually take the gate. I may be wrong in speculating it has been 15mins for ages even before my time here. ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/5 "2022-01-31T14:16:59Z")
The problem with the 5 minute timer is that all bots in 2022 will scan the space around them and detect your ship logged out on their combat site. A pure bot won’t do anything. A semi-bot will actually warp to your ship and kill it. Being able to log out in ratting sites would be a godsend. Btw, some rats hard swap their attention to you when you scram a bot, often leading to you getting hit with 50 types of ewar. The rats help the bot that was killing them. Amazing game. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/6 "2022-01-31T14:22:33Z")
You can get standing with the pirate factions through mission running. Then, if your standing is high enough, they won’t attack you when they see you. Although, that is mostly for belt and gate rats, I think mission rats would still attack. ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/7 "2022-01-31T14:45:47Z")
Would the rats in regular combat sites attack? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/8 "2022-01-31T14:56:28Z")
I’m not entirely sure. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/9 "2022-01-31T15:31:41Z")
Regular rats will always attack. The standings are more for diamond rats now ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/10 "2022-01-31T15:35:42Z")
Uh… I don’t want to argue with a PVE professional, but I have been all around null and lowsec with blue NPCs that never attacked me. Did CCP really change this? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/11 "2022-01-31T15:40:48Z")
If they are blue you’re good. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-non-capsuleer-log-off-timer-too-long-for-hunters/347890/12 "2022-05-01T15:41:17Z")
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