# Is there a reason I've never seen Legion Armor Logi fits? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [October 29, 2017, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917 "2017-10-29T06:55:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/61 "2017-10-30T12:50:20Z")
And this is bad because? ---
**Author:** ![Nikea\_Tiber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nikea_tiber/32/134445_2.png) [@Nikea\_Tiber](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nikea_Tiber)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/62 "2017-10-31T23:01:46Z")
> [@Oreb\_Wing](#): > > Strange, since the Exequror has an unusually large cargo in comparison to other cruisers. Probably an artifact of its old bonuses- it used to have bonuses to cargo capacity (as if gallente needed another cargo ship at the time). ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/63 "2017-11-01T00:06:14Z")
The Exequror is also a very good solo-logi boat that doesn’t cost much but can be a pain. She has the same logi-drone bonus the Oneiros has. ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/64 "2017-11-01T00:54:29Z")
Ye, I remember the Exequror from olde’ tymes. It used to have a mining drone yield bonus. The large cargo was supposed to be for ore I think. All is well though. I’m happy they left it as it was. ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/65 "2017-11-01T04:05:44Z")
Should be reinstitued for Oneiros far cap boosters. Right now it’s cost effective for me to send out 6 of these tech 1 exeq instead of 2 of my oneiros’s against ecm fleets. If Oneiros could fit more cap boosters in cargo (like three times as many) I would actually field them for longer medium-sized engagement. Right now I gotta put extra cap boosters charges in my thoraxes to jettison to onerios. [Exequror, Valhalla Priest] 800mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Prototype Armor Explosive Hardener I Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I Prototype Armor Thermal Hardener I Reactive Armor Hardener Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 200 10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner F-90 Compact Sensor Booster, ECCM Script F-90 Compact Sensor Booster, ECCM Script Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer Medium Solace Scoped Remote Armor Repairer Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I x5 Cap Booster 200 x60 Targeting Range Script x2 Scan Resolution Script x2 ECCM Script x2 Here’s the Thorax fit that carries the cap booster charges for Oneiros, kinda sad: [Thorax, Valhalla Cataphract] 1600mm Steel Plates II Prototype Armor Explosive Hardener I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Reactive Armor Hardener 50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Cap Recharger II J5 Enduring Warp Disruptor X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I Medium Anti-Thermal Pump I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Hammerhead II x5 Null M x6000 Void M x12000 Navy Cap Booster 400 x20 ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/66 "2017-11-01T05:37:26Z")
> [@Saladinae](#): > > send out 6 of these tech 1 exeq instead of 2 of my oneiros If you would send out 6x Augorors, the cost would be roughly the same and they even have more rep power plus cap x-fers. Don’t dismiss them, they are pretty awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/67 "2017-11-01T07:35:36Z")
Yeah you’re right. Don’t know why these things are designed so lopsided. I’m also wondering if it’s yet more effective to send out deadspace thalias with 25 meter sig radius with a sebo: [Thalia, Valhalla Valkyrie] 400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Armor Explosive Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Reactive Armor Hardener 1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 150 Sensor Booster II, ECCM Script Small Ancillary Remote Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Coreli B-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer Coreli B-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer Small Remote Repair Augmentor I Small Trimark Armor Pump I Hobgoblin II x1 ---
**Author:** ![Mizhir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhir/32/379234_2.png) [@Mizhir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhir)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/68 "2017-11-01T10:40:28Z")
Thera uses Logi legions quite succesfully. If legions were the go to logi over t2 logis for everyone then there would have been a balance issue, but for our purpose they serve quite well. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/69 "2017-11-01T11:59:55Z")
> [@Saladinae](#): > > [Thalia, Valhalla Valkyrie] > > 400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates …are you doing this on purpose? ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/70 "2017-11-01T23:37:40Z")
Never in this thread did I advocate for them to rep better than a guardian or have better/same cap. I advocated to make them a viable alternative to the guardian against the special case of alpha fleets. In particular against Cane/Muninn fleets. This seems to be where guards suffer the hardest, whereas their small sig radius makes them a better choice against Tempest alpha. The guardian would still be king for most large fleet encounters. ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/71 "2017-11-01T23:38:05Z")
What’s wrong with 400mm plates on a ship that travels 1km/s with an AB with a 25 meter sig radius? The ship is nigh invincible against cruiser+ weapons with a good spider chain. Just wait for the ADCU module for vengeance and ebyo before these forums are flooded with tears to nerf dual prop veng +AB enyo +AB thalia combo ---
**Author:** ![Nikea\_Tiber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nikea_tiber/32/134445_2.png) [@Nikea\_Tiber](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nikea_Tiber)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/72 "2017-11-02T04:54:16Z")
Might be like me and have tons of rolled tungsten plates stockpiled? I have several km³ of the stuff left over from before tiericide. ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/73 "2017-11-05T08:40:18Z")
I’ve been thinking, perhaps the Onerios and Scimi should be given MWD roles. A Bonus that improves cap with MWD fitted, an ammohold cargo bay (for cap boosters), and gives them -50% sig radius bloom from MWD. However, they could not fit Large Reps, mediums only. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/74 "2017-11-05T08:57:46Z")
> [@Saladinae](#): > > However, they could not fit Large Reps, mediums only No. Just no. ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2017, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/75 "2017-11-05T10:21:50Z")
You didn’t even consider MWD bonus. Medium deadspace reps nearly amount to tech 1 large reps. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/76 "2017-11-19T23:54:59Z")
> [@Saladinae](#): > > I’ve been thinking, perhaps the Onerios and Scimi should be given MWD roles. A Bonus that improves cap with MWD fitted, an ammohold cargo bay (for cap boosters) Oh boy! Please don’t put your ideas here before you talk about them with your buddies. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/77 "2017-11-19T23:56:33Z")
> [@Nikea\_Tiber](#): > > have tons of rolled tungsten plates stockpiled? Or why not fit 2x higgs anchor rigs on your logi. With your tonsa tungsten plates, you go much fast and has much tank. ---
**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/78 "2017-12-13T00:28:03Z")
Shadow cartel seems to be fielding them in one of their doctrines. > **[Legion | Volundark Gallente | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/66520662/)** > > Volundark Gallente (Convicts and Savages) lost their Legion in Old Man Star (Essence). Final Blow by Drew Atlasxtype (Cruisers Crew) flying in a Revelation. Total Value: 752,299,017.58 ISK > **[Legion | Citricioni | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/66520340/)** > > Citricioni (Immortalis Inc.) lost their Legion in Old Man Star (Essence). Final Blow by Cam Edison (Ill Tempered Overlords) flying in a Revelation. Total Value: 717,492,985.12 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Francis\_McLean](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/francis_mclean/32/285785_2.png) [@Francis\_McLean](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Francis_McLean)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/79 "2017-12-13T08:33:14Z")
Good alliances use T3C logi maybe you just arent in one? ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917/80 "2018-01-13T02:51:12Z")
the amount of people here that dont fly logi and only seem to want to fly if the fleet is srp’d is laughable; t3’c may cost more but it can use links and blops, its as simple as that. One guardian and basilisk can be neuted by a single bhaalgorn, two can be permajammed by a decent falcon/ecm pilot and i wont go into details if how it looks when theres a buttload of damps on field; they are also often the first to die in bs or other engagements (fc’s who do not consider them primary first if you cant alpha ships off field are usually bad fc’s) when they do start dropping like flies because 80k ehp isnt as good as 200k+ thats the time to cyno in the triage or gtfo of dodge. Im not sure how any of you consider them overpowered, perhaps because… uhm… nope, cant see it. Logi 5 t2 triage pilot btw; fav logi to use is scimi n guardian; basilisk is… well not as tanky and jams easier and onieros is very niche - theres a lot more people could be doing with logistics they just dont, mostly because no one wants to fly them despite being ‘team’ players. heard the expression ‘i just shoot ■■■■’? i find it strange how often these folks dont do solo or microgang stuff… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-a-reason-ive-never-seen-legion-armor-logi-fits/34917.md?page=5)