# Is there any plans to close the loop hole that is ganking? **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [February 21, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769 "2018-02-21T13:58:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/424 "2018-03-07T15:50:54Z")
PLEX! Do it with style, PLEX shuttle, best shuttle. 💳 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/425 "2018-03-07T15:51:54Z")
_Gankers hate him for this trick!_ ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/426 "2018-03-07T15:54:52Z")
Gish posting wont help you. ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Errogance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_errogance/32/57325_2.png) [@Major\_Errogance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Errogance)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/427 "2018-03-07T15:56:08Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Gish posting wont help you. I hope, one day, you will understand that… ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/428 "2018-03-07T15:57:51Z")
Pot meet kettle… Also, what are you going to do when Ccp tells you me, Major and Anderson don’t even live in the same country? 😂 Oh wait, that’s impossible we’re only one person 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/429 "2018-03-07T15:59:16Z")
What if they tell us we all four do ? That embarrassing moment … Forced to be Salvos’ alt too !! Rather get myself biomassed … Wait… that’s what he was saying before … ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/430 "2018-03-07T15:59:16Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Also, what are you going to do when Ccp tells you me, Major and Anderson don’t even live in the same country? 😂 Thanks for confirming investigative need of VPN or other proxy mechanics. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/431 "2018-03-07T16:02:29Z")
So much damage control posting. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/432 "2018-03-07T16:03:14Z")
Lmao Wat Now that’s just embarrassing for you mate 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/433 "2018-03-07T16:04:09Z")
Nothing embarrassing about exposing liars and cheaters, mate. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/434 "2018-03-07T16:05:41Z")
CCP have mercy on you That’s all I have to say at this point o7 ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/435 "2018-03-07T16:07:46Z")
> [@Major\_Errogance](#): > > It is not allowed to use one omega and one alpha account or more than one alpha on the same PC. Your assumptions are wrong. Please report me so I can get permabanned for my cheating. Also do not make up random rules you are NOT a CCP representative. Link to the official website like I -who is not a CCP representative- do : [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/213020969-Alpha-and-Omega-Clone](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/213020969-Alpha-and-Omega-Clone) > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > That is the correct answer. > > YOU claim something is forbidden, YOU have to back that claim. Not me. > > I also already answered this question of yours **See below:** > [@Are multiple accounts allowed as an Alpha?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-multiple-accounts-allowed-as-an-alpha/28621/6): > > No, it means you can run as many Omega accounts as you want, but you are only allowed to run that 1 Alpha account. While on an Alpha account it is the only account you are allowed to be on. Even if you have an alpha running on your laptop and several omega on your desktop, that would be in breach of the EULA. So you have two choices; Run a single Alpha account. Run one or multiple Omega accounts. EULA applies to you as a person and not your PC(s). **What do you say to that?** I always deliver. It is not permitted for a person to run multiple alphas clients, or an omega with x alpha clients, simultaneously, regardless of how many platforms they are running on. **Source thread:** > [Are multiple accounts allowed as an Alpha?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-multiple-accounts-allowed-as-an-alpha/28621/) -\>Re-posted past deliberate gish posting by vested trolls/alts. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/436 "2018-03-07T16:10:48Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > I always deliver. Then you need to learn to read > YOU claim something is forbidden, YOU have to back that claim. Not me. this is not a point about alpha/omega but about you claiming things. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/437 "2018-03-07T16:24:07Z")
And not very relevant to the op (not surprising tho lol) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/438 "2018-03-07T16:35:30Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > this is not a point about alpha/omega but about you claiming things. Major claimed it was allowed if its not on the same PC. You agreed. I said that was false. You asked me for evidence. I delivered. Both of you where wrong, and Major specifically said that he should be reported/permabanned if he had been wrong in running multiple alphas/omega+alpha, as was his, false, interpretation of the rules. Seems he has been cheating. Its all evidenced in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/439 "2018-03-07T16:57:30Z")
_I believe in unicorns Unicorns are real You said unicorns, that’s proof they’re real You’re all wrong if you say otherwise_ That’s you in a nutshell ---
**Author:** ![Ivory\_Harcourt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivory_harcourt/32/368154_2.png) [@Ivory\_Harcourt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivory_Harcourt)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/440 "2018-03-07T17:01:30Z")
Little things like this remind me why I don’t mingle with highsec peons. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/441 "2018-03-07T17:08:41Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You agreed. Where exactly did I say he was right ? ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/442 "2018-03-07T17:58:24Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > ok, after spamming for 2H now salvos starts bolding ? Is that the new level of childish ? Not until we get videos. 😛 > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > And you make wrong statistic analysis of the killboard. That is possible, but I haven’t seen anything concrete to support this. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > The thing is, YOU are translating zkb data into a causation, using statistical data assumption. I don’t know why you are hung up on causation here and statistical analysis. I have not claimed this is statistically rigorous and even if it were it would not prove causation. Still when we look through the killboards there is a dearth of procurer/skiff kills. There is not for other mining ships. We also know it is possible to tank a procurer. Even so-so procurer fit will have considerably more tank than the other ships. It is not unreasonable, given our lack of complete data, to conclude that such a switch will lower the likelihood of being ganked or suffering from a successful gank. Your chances of surviving a gank in a covetor depends on things like being constantly aware of your immediate environment and being prepared to warp out. Not everyone wants to mine like that. So there are options open to players. Like using a tanked proc/skiff. Yes if there are 10 guys ganking together they can gank you. But if it is 2 guys the can’t unless the wait for more pilots. Which again is a trade off situation. Wait for more guys or move on and gank softer targets. It is kind of like Uber. Uber lets a person with a decent car can earn some extra money on what is likely a kinda crappy investment. Mining is generally a boring activity, but it also lends itself to what I have called semi-afk play. You can get on comms and chat, maybe watch Netflix and relax. But ganking disrupts that. Fitting for tank can help mitigate that disruption. ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Errogance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_errogance/32/57325_2.png) [@Major\_Errogance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Errogance)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/443 "2018-03-07T18:11:22Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Thanks for confirming investigative need of VPN or other proxy mechanics. How is the doxing going? I suggest you throttle back from real life crime to shitposting. #InBeforePoliceKnocksAtDoor [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769.md?page=16)