# Is there any plans to close the loop hole that is ganking? **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [February 21, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769 "2018-02-21T13:58:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Fred\_VonStraine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fred_vonstraine/32/256698_2.png) [@Fred\_VonStraine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fred_VonStraine)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/42 "2018-02-21T18:08:29Z")
JC Mieyli Now that was FUNNY haven’t laughed so hard in a long time ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/43 "2018-02-21T18:14:01Z")
at least someone got it or at least found it funny im an immature kid sue me ---
**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/44 "2018-02-21T18:14:56Z")
> [@Tirkibo](#): > > However, its far too easy and the billions of ISK earned by ganking is rather unbalanced. > > Is there any plans to make this part of the game come more inline with other mechanics such as jump fatigue since for me, this is type of game play should have similar consequences? I’m not a ganker (well I tried to gank a bot once - didn’t work, and CONCORD killed me). And I’ve been a victim of ganks. Having said that, I’m not sure why special in-game mechanics are needed to deal with ganking. You are essentially saying special mechanics are needed to deal with players shooting other players’ ships. ---
**Author:** ![Fred\_VonStraine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fred_vonstraine/32/256698_2.png) [@Fred\_VonStraine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fred_VonStraine)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/45 "2018-02-21T18:16:10Z")
so am I wife say’s i’ll never grow up…just turned 67 yesterday…keep the laughs comming ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/46 "2018-02-21T18:17:52Z")
thats cool happy birthday and hope more oldies come to the game ---
**Author:** ![Pretentious\_Knob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pretentious_knob/32/370626_2.png) [@Pretentious\_Knob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pretentious_Knob)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/47 "2018-02-21T18:18:49Z")
I have been ganked in an empty freighter. It sucked at the time but made me change my game play. It will never go away. ---
**Author:** ![Fred\_VonStraine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fred_vonstraine/32/256698_2.png) [@Fred\_VonStraine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fred_VonStraine)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/48 "2018-02-21T18:19:18Z")
thanks but age is but a number …its how you feel that counts Fly safe ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/49 "2018-02-21T18:21:16Z")
you too and if you ever wanna fly dangerous hit me up and we can figure something out ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/50 "2018-02-21T18:25:59Z")
> [@Tirkibo](#): > > Is there any plans to make this part of the game come more inline with other mechanics such as jump fatigue since for me, this is type of game play should have similar consequences? Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/51 "2018-02-21T18:26:53Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > why should a single dumb player have the power to subvert the efforts of multiple experienced and organised players Because life is not fair. Why should EVE be? ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anne_dieu-le-veut/32/148292_2.png) [@Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anne_Dieu-le-veut)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/52 "2018-02-21T18:27:09Z")
What loophole? I love when people claim to think ganking in most instances is fine, but offer a change that would drastically interfere with ganking. Just man up and admit you want to see ganking banned. > [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > In order to bring ganking closer to the general Risk vs. Reward mantra one step would be to deny any criminal or pirate docking in NPC stations. Honestly, I could see a change not allowing pods with active criminal timers from docking in NPC stations, but not allowing -5s or worse to dock wouldn’t really make sense. The criminal’s ISK is just as good as anyone elses’ to the Empires’ treasuries. Criminals IRL are still allowed to go to the mall and buy stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Fred\_VonStraine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fred_vonstraine/32/256698_2.png) [@Fred\_VonStraine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fred_VonStraine)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/53 "2018-02-21T18:27:23Z")
will do I’ll put you on my friends list do the same for me if you care to…buy the buy take a look at my idea for new event if you like the idea spread the word it would be appreciated 😉 ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/54 "2018-02-21T18:28:06Z")
and if one player can destroy the efforts of 50 how do you think that will scale when you have 50 of those group together ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/55 "2018-02-21T18:29:02Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > how do you think that will scale when you have 50 of those group together Not at all. Dumb people like me don’t group together. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/56 "2018-02-21T18:29:38Z")
> [@Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](#): > > Honestly, I could see a change not allowing pods with active criminal timers from docking in NPC stations pretty sure they cant gotta sit on a safe spot till the timer runs down iirc ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/57 "2018-02-21T18:30:37Z")
but will still get wrecked by players who do not sure how to feel about this post ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/58 "2018-02-21T18:32:46Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > gotta sit on a safe spot till the timer runs down iirc You recall incorrectly. Criminal capsules can dock once their weapons and session timers have expired. 60 seconds, maximum. > [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > but will still get wrecked by players who do Not if 1 dumb player like me “can destroy the efforts of 50”. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anne_dieu-le-veut/32/148292_2.png) [@Anne\_Dieu-le-veut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anne_Dieu-le-veut)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/59 "2018-02-21T18:33:05Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > pretty sure they cant > > gotta sit on a safe spot till the timer runs down iirc Pretty sure I saw a red flashy in a NPC station yesterday. What they do is dock in a station with their flashy pod and (generally) nothing else to get a free rookie ship, then undock in the rookie ship to pull CONCORD, wait for CONCORD to explode the rookie ship, then redock until criminal timer expires. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/60 "2018-02-21T18:34:31Z")
> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > You recall incorrectly. Criminal capsules can dock once their weapons and session timers have expired. 60 seconds, maximum. my mistake been a while since i went red blinky i thought you had to wait for red blink to run out before docking > [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#): > > Not if 1 dumb player like me “can destroy the efforts of 50”. yeah but each of those players will also be capable of wrecking the fforts of 50 balance remember ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769/61 "2018-02-21T18:37:26Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > yeah but each of those players will also be capable of wrecking the fforts of 50 > balance remember So, which is it? Do 50 wreck 1 or does 1 wreck 50? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-plans-to-close-the-loop-hole-that-is-ganking/58769.md?page=4)