# Is there any point in loggin in for a solo hisec player now? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 8, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993 "2024-02-08T20:17:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/121 "2024-02-19T12:55:33Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Ah…you want to play snakes and ladders. OK…down the snake you slide to post #102. Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/122 "2024-02-19T14:00:18Z")
> [@Calamity\_Unleashed](#): > > there is no _space_ in EvE, it’s more like water Ah…that must be 20 years worth of carebear tears. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/123 "2024-02-19T16:38:44Z")
honestly everyone should be required to join a player corp after 3 months of being in an npc corp so long as they aren’t inactive. You shouldn’t be able to make one until you’ve spent at least 3 months in someone else’s. this is a MMORPG those first 3 meaning Massive Multiplayer Online. That means you are playing with other people. Just a personal opinion that I’m sure lots of people disagree with. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/124 "2024-02-19T17:17:27Z")
So what would possibly be the mechanism to force someone into a players corp? How would that even feasibly be a thing? ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/125 "2024-02-19T17:31:51Z")
I mean inevitably it would be on ccps shoulders to figure that out but a simple answer would be, while in an npc corp when you log the character in the corporate window opens and you scroll until you find one you like. sort of like the alliance rankings list. Right click apply. After that 90 day timer ends, similar to how if you drop into alpha from omega if you’re in a ship that’s not allowed on alpha it wont let you undock in it, same would happen here until you’re in a player corp. you have 90 days to find a corp you like and with countless player corps its not hard to find one you will fit in. This game needs interaction between its player base if it wants to survive. To many people trying to play by themselves and you may as well just be playing minecraft or something. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/126 "2024-02-19T21:08:43Z")
> [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > honestly everyone should be required to join a player corp and then you would whine about them joining my corp ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/127 "2024-02-20T00:43:41Z")
If they do they do. Just means more failures with no skill for me to shoot at on a daily basis 🙂 they are allowed to make mistakes it will help them learn and grow. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/128 "2024-02-20T01:09:43Z")
> [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > Just means more failures with no skill for me to shoot at on a daily basis Your killboard indicates you don’t do much of anything. Certainly, you won’t be shooting anybody on a daily basis. Nice roleplay bluster tho. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/129 "2024-02-20T01:16:22Z")
My kb more than speaks for itself lol it’s lacking this past week or two because I work for a hospital so my hours are a little crazy unfortunately but no complaints. Someone made a joke during my csm campaign about me hating ganking so much that I stop gankers in rl also since i work at a hospital lol ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/130 "2024-02-20T01:17:37Z")
> [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > My kb more than speaks for itself Indeed. I see a ten year old character still hiding in an 0.9. What do you see? > [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > I stop gankers in rl also since i work at a hospital lol What does that weird statement even mean? ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/131 "2024-02-20T01:23:33Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Indeed. I see a ten year old character still hiding in an 0.9. What do you see? You very clearly don’t look back far enough on the kb. Sorry I kill a lot of you guys so i know it’s a lot to skim. That isk killed amount is a lot high for just shooting gankers wouldn’t you say? > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > What does that weird statement even mean? No clue someone else said it and it made me chuckle. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/132 "2024-02-20T01:36:50Z")
> [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > Sorry I kill a lot of you guys Sounds like bluster. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/133 "2024-02-20T01:39:49Z")
You know denial is the first step to recover. I’m here for you. It’s ok, admitting you have a problem will help you overcome it. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/134 "2024-02-20T01:41:38Z")
I have no idea what you are talking about, but whoring on CONCORD killmails isn’t going to impress anyone. As long as you have been playing, its disappointing to see you are still carebearing in Highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/135 "2024-02-20T01:52:40Z")
> [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > You very clearly don’t look back far enough on the kb. Sorry I kill a lot of you guys so i know it’s a lot to skim. That isk killed amount is a lot high for just shooting gankers wouldn’t you say? Okay, I looked. About half of the total destruction value you’ve contributed to was a few dozen capital ships and citadels you’ve leeched on (usually doing 0 damage, looks like just target-painting them at range for a single cycle). You have many hundreds of “kills” of ganker Tornadoes/Thrashers/etc., basically one-shot ships that were in the process of dying anyway that you got a volley on before they did (the vast majority have CONCORD or sentries as listed parties, proving that you likely didn’t interfere with the gank attempts as the gankers managed to get their shots off). A bit less than a third of your total kills are empty pods and corvettes (basically doing the gankers a favor by teleporting them to the station after ganks or CONCORD pulls). The combined total of your inconsequential AG activities is about 60-65% of your activities. Also a bit of weird stuff going on, which looks like stat-padding to me: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/d/3/6d3f9934af509bc11551fba7e4618e3fa2c1c149.png) Finally, on the lower end of a few hundred entries of what appears to be conventional (normal) PvP like gate-camping in low-sec and taking part in fleet fights sized about 20-100 players, which is respectable. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/136 "2024-02-20T01:57:39Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Finally, on the lower end of a few hundred entries of what appears to be conventional (normal) PvP like gate-camping in low-sec and taking part in fleet fights sized about 20-100 players, which is respectable. This is the portion that makes up most of the isk killed. But honestly amazing work. You do that for a job because if not you should. Seriously. Data analyst or something. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Also a bit of weird stuff going on, which looks like stat-padding to me: I was asked to help him get the AIR challenges or something I don’t remember. I told him I’d let him shoot at me to get the damage to capsuleers and it also has get killed one apparently. I’ve never messed with that but I don’t mind helping honest people when they ask. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/137 "2024-02-20T02:02:41Z")
> [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > This is the portion that makes up most of the isk killed. Only if you include the 300+ billion ISK worth of capital and structure kills, most of which you didn’t even damage according to a spot check. If we take away these, and all the AG “kills,” that leaves at best a quarter of the kills and value for this portion. Which, in itself, is respectable, but isn’t the focal point for our criticism, which is that AGs try to portray their AG activities as “valuable” PvP statistics when they objectively _aren’t._ > [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > But honestly amazing work. You do that for a job because if not you should. Seriously. Data analyst or something. It was just a casual glance at the “stats” section and a quick summation of a page’s worth of data per category prorated to the whole. Took like 3 minutes. Quick example: I copied the entire page of your Dread kills into Excel, converted the kill value column into number values with a conditional, and summed them for a total of 231.72 billion ISK. Actually I already had a sheet that does this from previous analyses. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/138 "2024-02-20T02:08:26Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > 300+ billion ISK worth of capital and structure kills, most of which you didn’t even damage according to a spot check. Most of those battles with capitals or structures were fleet battles. We all had roles to play in those fights. It’s called land and grab points on everything you can. We all put our secondary items on what ever we could and put dps on what ever the FC told us. If the FC didn’t say put dps on the capital we didn’t but we still had points or target painters on it. Usually the capitals would deal with the capitals. We generally only put dps from sub caps on caps when the enemy has no sub caps. But also yes a few times we would hear about big fights like that forming that we didn’t have a dog in the fight so we would hop in stealth bombers to whore on kills. Happens a lot in low/null. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/139 "2024-02-20T02:15:55Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Actually I already had a sheet that does this from previous analyses. Exactly my point lol I’m assuming you have done this for work at some point. If not you should. Could make good money doing it if you’re good at it. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/140 "2024-02-20T02:18:05Z")
And that’s fine, you can play however you want to, but people have this tendency to brag about their kill boards and their “kills” when in reality their contribution was negligible or entirely non-existent. If you say something like… > [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > My kb more than speaks for itself lol …then you shouldn’t be surprised when someone looks into it and calls you out on the relative lack of substance. Having only a few hundred “normal” PvP entries in a history spanning thousands, which in themselves are large-scale N+1 combat that’s not particularly notable as being skill-intensive, is not impressive, as Aiko has stated, in response to the bragging that _ **you** _ initiated. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993.md?page=8)