# Is there any point in loggin in for a solo hisec player now? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 8, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993 "2024-02-08T20:17:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/141 "2024-02-20T02:22:27Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > looks like stat-padding to me: @RGC_Godfather Who are you trying to impress? ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/142 "2024-02-20T02:22:47Z")
Most of my dps being on the sub caps in those massive fights doesn’t mean I’m not contributing in the fight lol just means I was following my targets as the FC called them. I contributed to the fight as a whole and didn’t venture off target to shoot random caps. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/143 "2024-02-20T02:24:45Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > [RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/rgc_godfather) Who are you trying to impress? You very obviously didn’t read my reply to that lol ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/144 "2024-02-20T02:26:05Z")
Are you afraid of lowsec? Is that why you hide in an 0.9? Let me guess, you are cloaking in Highsec, right? ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/145 "2024-02-20T02:35:17Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Are you afraid of lowsec? I’m assuming you also missed the part of the conversation about the massive low/null sec fights? Lol ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/146 "2024-02-20T02:36:49Z")
> [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > I’m assuming you also missed the part of the conversation about the massive low/null sec fights? Lol Oh no, I didn’t miss that, it was just boring content. It looks like you whored on some ‘massive’ fights, and then people kicked you out of fleet and now all you can do is whore in Jita. That’s kinda sad, and I’m not trying to make fun of you, just encouraging you to try a little harder. After ten years, we expect more from you. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/147 "2024-02-20T02:40:04Z")
Weird yet interesting that you seem to think you have any clue about the history of my character lol you seem to make far more accusations over actually knowing anything. That how you play eve also? At least destiny was using a factual logical argument. Clearly someone far more worth my time. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/148 "2024-02-20T02:41:01Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > It looks like you whored on some ‘massive’ fights That’s just the world we live in now. I remember people actually _made fun of me_ for refusing to whore on the TTT mails. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/149 "2024-02-20T02:41:10Z")
Well, I do know something about your character. You have a zkillboard, and I’ve spoken to people who know you. You aren’t exactly a mystery man. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/150 "2024-02-20T02:49:24Z")
I think the biggest irony is that AGs are unaware that they could have a much greater impact on the reduction of ganking by creating corporations and alliances where they teach survival strategies on a mass scale, compared to leeching on CONCORD kill mails with their insta-locking Lokis. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/151 "2024-02-20T02:50:50Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I think the biggest irony is that AGs are unaware that they could have a much greater impact on the reduction of ganking by creating corporations and alliances where they teach survival strategies on a mass scale We already do this actually 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/152 "2024-02-20T06:17:25Z")
Then it must not be very effective, given the number of people that complain about „Ganking being out of control“ on the forums. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/153 "2024-02-20T06:19:55Z")
Can’t make people read chats or mails. All we can do is provide the info needed. Lead a horse to water, can’t make it drink. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/154 "2024-02-20T06:47:20Z")
Hm, very astute. So that must by why people beg CCP to ban ganking and run failed CSM campaigns on this unfulfillable promise. ---
**Author:** ![RGC\_Godfather](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rgc_godfather/32/433733_2.png) [@RGC\_Godfather](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RGC_Godfather)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/155 "2024-02-20T06:59:02Z")
as Ive stated before its hard to get votes for anti ganking when they’ve all been practically forced off the game 🙂 I mass majority of people Ive spoken to that no longer play the game say its because of ganking. A few other reasons get jumbled in the mix don’t get me wrong, its not all because gankers. CCP has its fair share of other flaws. Getting and keeping newer players (retention) is the issue here. When the newer player base leaves because of ganking they don’t care enough anymore to return and vote against it. To them the game is a failed vanity project. This leaves a rather vocal and loud community of gankers screaming about how ganking is good and fun because no one is left playing to speak out against them. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/156 "2024-02-20T07:04:34Z")
Can we like…_not_ go down the path of arguing about whether or not ganking is the reason all the new players are quitting EVE? Then people are going to post those stupid charts again that show that only 1% of new players get ganked and it’s all so tiring and played out, with all those arguments already having been rehashed ad infinitum. Wesfahrn and I tried _really hard_ to keep this thread interesting only for _you people_ to ruin it like this. Please, show us some consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/157 "2024-02-20T07:14:03Z")
„Ganking is the biggest newbie retention problem“ is slotted for the next 30 posts, then it is Flat Earths turn for the next 20. Chemtrails and it’s longevity gets 50 posts afterwards, followed by 5G which has 15 posts because of how adamant their adherents are. Then it’s onto the individuals: Tupac for 5 posts, Sasquatch for 5 after, Bigfoot for the next 5, and Loch Ness for the final 5 posts in the „Individual“ category. Then we melt into 9/11 Steel Beams for 50 posts. Finally, we end with 100 posts of calling everybody a forum alt of someone else. As you can see it’s a packed schedule and there’s no time to revisit it. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/158 "2024-02-20T07:25:58Z")
Sigh. Okay, well, I’m gonna go watch my anime while you do that for the next few hours then. Someone @ me when we’re at the 5G and 9/11 points of the conversation, because I have a lot of opinions about those topics that I feel are very important and everyone should hear them. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Rose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_rose/32/408778_2.png) [@Mina\_Rose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Rose)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/159 "2024-02-20T11:01:11Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > If you want to PvP grief so much, go play a PvP griefer game like Rust and leave the rest of us alone to play EVE in peace. Of all the really dumb things people spit out with their verbal phlegm on the forum, this just _has_ to be up there with the dumbest. You’re playing a pvp sandbox multiplayer game but you want to be left alone? On what planet are you currently living, because that makes zero sense. If you want to be left alone, play a _single player_ game. It’s really that easy. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-point-in-loggin-in-for-a-solo-hisec-player-now/438993/160 "2024-02-20T12:27:12Z")
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