# Is there any way to make orca do cloak + MWD trick? **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [April 10, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942 "2018-04-10T17:42:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mandu\_LEE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mandu_lee/32/65790_2.png) [@Mandu\_LEE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mandu_LEE)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/1 "2018-04-10T17:42:12Z")
Well of course orca can warp in 10 sec after one cycle of 500mn mwd. But since 10 sec is enough time to be locked by gankers and scrambled, I also want to be cloaked while aligning. I know smaller ships can use cloak + mwd trick and used it for safety. But how about orca? I tried same but no luck. Is there any way to make orca do cloak + MWD trick? ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/2 "2018-04-10T18:04:22Z")
Was told it’s not possible, but didn’t try … I think you need to bring up the max speed. ---
**Author:** ![Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phrynohyas_tig-rah/32/420039_2.png) [@Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phrynohyas_Tig-Rah)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/3 "2018-04-10T18:12:14Z")
Go to the test server and try/train it. Should be possible with overheated MWD + faction cloak ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/4 "2018-04-10T20:57:10Z")
Interesting question. Watching this space… ---
**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/5 "2018-04-10T21:24:29Z")
Even if you don’t get up to 75% speed, it will confuse campers and cut a few seconds of your align time, perhaps giving you an escape. So even if it’s not possible to execute perfectly, I’d still use the cloak+mwd trick on every jump. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/6 "2018-04-10T21:51:45Z")
You can’t cloak if you are being targeted anyway… ---
**Author:** ![Mandu\_LEE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mandu_lee/32/65790_2.png) [@Mandu\_LEE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mandu_LEE)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/7 "2018-04-11T00:59:12Z")
Well I made it! Without overheat. Now I can enjoy safer hauling 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Imustbecomfused](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imustbecomfused/32/140896_2.png) [@Imustbecomfused](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imustbecomfused)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/8 "2018-04-11T01:01:13Z")
thats the spirit. ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/9 "2018-04-11T06:10:08Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > You can’t cloak if you are being targeted anyway… you can pretty much always cloak before you get targeted. The typical exception is if there is stuff within 2km of where your ship lands after jumping gate. And of course if they have a fast frig or two it is possible they get a decloak by flying right at you while you are cloaked. ---
**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/10 "2018-04-11T07:56:14Z")
> [@Mandu\_LEE](#): > > Well I made it! Only because the ship was pretty much pre-alligned after the jump. Not always you can pick warp destination so close to your initial orientation. ---
**Author:** ![Boldly\_Gone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boldly_gone/32/274259_2.png) [@Boldly\_Gone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boldly_Gone)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/11 "2018-04-11T08:27:50Z")
Let’s see if we can get some Newbie forum questions out of this: a) What is the trick? b) Does it work with a Venture given at the start? c) What skills do I need to handle cloaking as a powerful tool? I lose 90% of my speed while cloaking atm. ---
**Author:** ![Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phrynohyas_tig-rah/32/420039_2.png) [@Phrynohyas\_Tig-Rah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phrynohyas_Tig-Rah)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/12 "2018-04-11T08:39:03Z")
[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Cloak\_trick](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Cloak_trick) ---
**Author:** ![Mandu\_LEE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mandu_lee/32/65790_2.png) [@Mandu\_LEE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mandu_LEE)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/13 "2018-04-11T08:42:32Z")
> [@erg\_cz](#): > > > [@Mandu\_LEE](#): > > > > Well I made it! > > Only because the ship was pretty much pre-alligned after the jump. Not always you can pick warp destination so close to your initial orientation. I made several experiments, and found that the direction after you jump doesn’t affect on this trick. The thing is, if your orca is close to zero speed, this trick will work regardless of your direction. But if your speed is more than about 20%(not accurate) of max speed, then this will make your orca to need more time to align before warp. And every time after jump, your ship is at zero speed 😃 PS. But right after undocking NPC station could be a problem. You can’t make every NPC station’s insta-warp bookmark. ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/14 "2018-04-11T09:22:52Z")
Confirming @erg_cz is incorrect. The direction your ship faces has 0 effect on align time as long as you are stationary. ---
**Author:** ![Erethond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erethond/32/11049_2.png) [@Erethond](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erethond)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/15 "2018-04-11T14:40:38Z")
Now you just have to share: how did you make it work? Higgs anchor? Faction cloak/MWD? ---
**Author:** ![Mandu\_LEE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mandu_lee/32/65790_2.png) [@Mandu\_LEE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mandu_LEE)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/16 "2018-04-12T05:15:51Z")
[Implants] AC-603 - MWD speed 3% increase EM-705 - Ship inertia 5% decrease Zor’s custom navigation hyper-link - MWD speed 5% increase [Orca] CPU 253.0 / 660.0 tf Power Grid 1,394.0 / 1,440.0 MW Calibration 300.0 / 400.0 points High Power Slots 1/6 Caldari Navy Cloaking Device - Needed to achieve velocity for warp while cloak. Medium Power Slots 5/5 500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive - Less powergrid usage 2x Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender EM Ward Amplifier I Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Low Power Slots 2/2 Inertial Stabilizers II - For faster velocity increase. ‘Basic’ Expanded Cargohold - Less hull decrease, and max velocity decrease make orca easy to warp. Large Rig Slots 3/3 Large Cargohold Optimization II 2x Large Low Friction Nozzle Joints II - For faster velocity increase. [Skills] Spaceship commmand V Evasive maneuvering III Acceleration control III Maybe I can change Inertial stab to Damage control if I max my related skills. This fit might be not useful to normal mining people, but useful enough to haulers like me 😀 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-any-way-to-make-orca-do-cloak-mwd-trick/68942/17 "2018-07-11T05:15:53Z")
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