# Is there even a point to playing this game if wanting to do solo PvE outside of high sec? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 9, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579 "2024-01-09T00:41:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/63 "2024-01-14T18:47:42Z")
You set yourself up for tears. > [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > complete (100%) safety is probably beyond most. But high 90’s is definitely achievable… Count it _lost_ as soon as you’re in space. The **Undock** button should be renamed **Trash** ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/64 "2024-01-14T21:43:39Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > But you’re right - complete (100%) safety is probably beyond most. But high 90’s is definitely achievable… I fly with a 25% safety chance of redocking. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/65 "2024-01-15T00:27:48Z")
To each their own, but it’s high 9’s for me or I just chill watching YouTube… ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/66 "2024-01-15T02:13:40Z")
> **Been trying to solo white diamond response fleets** > > ![white-diamond-fleets](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/b/a/dba202ce7dce7cbe55bf14d5fe4fc8e27b1cfd80.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sarah\_Olson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sarah_olson/32/377582_2.png) [@Sarah\_Olson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sarah_Olson)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/67 "2024-01-15T02:35:54Z")
> [@Calamity\_Unleashed](#): > > The **Undock** button should be renamed **Trash** Nah, if you know what you are doing and take the proper precautions, you can go many years without blowing up. I have some ships that are over 10 years old. They will be entering puberty soon, if they become to sassy and rebellious I might have to take them to a war zone and have them destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/68 "2024-01-15T04:39:07Z")
There are plently of places outside Highsec for pve pilots like ourselves! > **Exhibit A; Stealing the ESS Bank isk funds from AFK Miners!** > > ![horde-afk](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/7/c/87c30069b2c07bd70b9b0d52b9f512b6b8a24fb1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/69 "2024-01-15T09:32:47Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Been trying to [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/3/e/d3e890243d7c1c3fd576b90318f4196cc9846e88.jpeg "“No, Try Not. Do or Do Not. There Is No Try.”") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rkdYSRoqRM) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/70 "2024-01-15T17:44:41Z")
I’m preparing myself to be ready to duel. I’m needing a brawling fit instead of a glass cannon fit, perhaps @Altara_Zemara could suggest? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/71 "2024-01-15T17:56:27Z")
By the end of the duel all your ISK will belong to me. 😈 ❄ 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/72 "2024-01-15T18:04:15Z")
This just goes to show that Eve Online does hold a valid point about playing solo. I think @Whiskiz_IronScrotum can find the content that will change his view from the opening thread topic. We wish him well in Y125 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/73 "2024-01-15T18:06:21Z")
But you aren’t playing solo. You play along your many alts. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/74 "2024-01-15T18:41:23Z")
> [@Whiskiz\_IronScrotum](#): > > multiboxing and external tools, just to do base pve Won’t make any difference. As Aiko said > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > You need to pay your taxes. Frist step is to buy a Mining and Exploration permit from your local New Order enforcer. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/75 "2024-01-15T18:47:53Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > I’m needing a brawling fit instead of a glass cannon fit You’re going to get a Gnosis fit. ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/76 "2024-01-15T19:46:02Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > a Mining and Exploration permit So there’s a Mining and _now_ an Exploration permit? Let’s make it easy and have a permit required for every activity in the game. Maybe Aiko can sell Omega time, too? And if she’s so powerful she can set up a new bounty system herself instead of begging CCP for it every single month. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/77 "2024-01-15T20:47:52Z")
I’m sorry young lassie but it’s Princess Aiko to you with the way you should address or reference aiko… ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/78 "2024-01-15T20:57:12Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > it’s Princess Aiko to you Negative. It’s Princess Aiko to _you_. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/79 "2024-01-15T21:06:30Z")
More than a few of us play solo. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/80 "2024-01-15T21:15:44Z")
> [@One of my pretty ladies broke her nail and was locked out of her capsule](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/one-of-my-pretty-ladies-broke-her-nail-and-was-locked-out-of-her-capsule/435971/8): > > Last chance to inform us whom is that princess you speak of? > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > it’s Princess Aiko to you Very Good ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/81 "2024-01-15T23:38:48Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > It all depends on what activities you run and how you configure your ships. I can’t speak for everyone, but my biggest threat is disconnects - so I’ve planned my builds accordingly. This is why I can lean to cap stable perma run builds. I know its a dps hit. I’ve lost a fair bit of isk to net issues and max gank less tank builds. Remnant from the olds days of desync’s where if lucky…tank still runs while you pray the sync comes back. Or pray you can alt f4 back in time. Or…irl comes up. When I first started eve I had the little one in the house. baby cries, leave tank running…hope its enough not killing dps when pushing harder content. Sometimes I came back to pods, most times…the ship was alive. The little one is now 14. And I still favor cap stable perma run since 14 years olds have selective vision. So you must walk away to show them. They can spot a $20 bill in pile of trash papers. But not the pile of trash papers you told them to pick up. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579/82 "2024-01-16T00:42:32Z")
Two disconnects today. Neither would’ve been a deal-breaker in any L4 mission or had one of the roving ganker groups shown up, but it did give me that added piece of mind. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-there-even-a-point-to-playing-this-game-if-wanting-to-do-solo-pve-outside-of-high-sec/435579.md?page=5)