# ISD volunteering Discussion

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 28, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258 "2021-04-28T14:14:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/22 "2021-04-28T19:16:58Z")

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F my hat that was 8 yarens ago?

Jeezy creezy

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/23 "2021-04-28T19:28:09Z")

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Free Customer Service Employees

Pretty shameful IMHO.

EDIT: Shamefull of the corps, not the volunteers.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/24 "2021-04-28T19:28:56Z")

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Mintchip will always be remembered as the single greatest influence over EVE player incel rage coming out of the closet.

o7

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/25 "2021-04-28T19:30:02Z")

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> [@ISD\_Golem](#):
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> Like Aiko stated, moderators on reddit, or discord servers or facebook groups all give their free time to support something they enjoy.

2 wrongs don’t make a right.

I don’t know how companies get away with it. In the US it is illegal for “for profit” companies to use volunteers.

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**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/26 "2021-04-28T19:39:08Z")

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While any company wants to get the most revenue coming in for the least amount of cost and community volunteers are a common method used to achieve this, poor or unsatisfactory volunteer effort or work may actually cost the business profit by creating more dissatisfied consumers than a payed employee. Volunteers should be applauded for donating their free time, but only when improvement or satisfaction with the consumer’s experience is repeatedly shown. A bad CR volunteer can create more problems than they try to solve.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/27 "2021-04-28T19:51:21Z")

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As internet janitors, what should their rate of pay be?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/29 "2021-04-28T19:59:28Z")

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The mods here are _saints_ compared to the mods on Reddit (and to a lesser extent Steam). On those platforms, if you don’t fit into their SJW agenda world views, they will hound you and repeatedly give you infractions and bans. They run their little simp fiefdoms and dole out favors to their brown-nosing subjects while silencing all dissent.

That said, I do wish the mods here locked less threads than they do. An idea I had was to make a “garbage dump” forum section where low-class (but not necessarily offensive or rule-breaking) threads can be moved to.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/30 "2021-04-28T20:24:25Z")

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I like the mods at [Crochetville.com](http://Crochetville.com)

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/31 "2021-04-28T20:56:54Z")

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You’ve just enriched my life.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/32 "2021-04-28T22:00:33Z")

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I have was accused of being part of the institutional memory of Eve. In a way it might be true.

m

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**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/33 "2021-04-28T22:44:40Z")

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> [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](#):
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> I create this thread because it’s a good topic and not to be discussed at the botting thread.

No, you created It to troll and get attention.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/34 "2021-04-29T00:05:50Z")

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Ib4tl. Their on a roll.

Edit; Meh, I still find the ISD has a sense of humor. They just cant show it.

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/35 "2021-04-29T00:23:39Z")

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The ISD have a sense of humour, and have shown it, but I can quite imagine how they get tired of the same shenanigans in threads.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/36 "2021-04-29T00:52:32Z")

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It shows more in game.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/37 "2021-04-29T01:16:20Z")

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ISD vs ISD at the office! 🙃  
[Shenanigans - Gavin’s Sweet Revenge - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDdXHNy-tjA)

Sorry, all I could come up with without to much effort. Kinda like the Dev’s. 😉

> [@Why lock threads about botting?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-lock-threads-about-botting/308166/37):
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> There’s a couple that really dont like us

I don’t think it’s that bad. That being said, I will go down fighting.

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**Author:** ![Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neo_bladedrifter/32/244232_2.png) [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neo_Bladedrifter)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/38 "2021-04-29T01:34:40Z")

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> [@Xanthellus](#):
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> you created It

I VOLUNTEERED to created it even though i know i will be trolled. 🤪🤪🤪 and not monitized in a forum that the word Respect is in the toilet sit. I respect the ISD’s who deal with troll brats with extraordinary patience everday.

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**Author:** ![Hariet](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Hariet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hariet)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/39 "2021-04-29T02:06:17Z")

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> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#):
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> In the US it is illegal for “for profit” companies to use volunteers.

Mostly true but not completely.

You can still “employ” unpaid interns, if, you can show there is real value to the intern in being so occupied. Otherwise, it is minimum wage. (Which, depending on the role - say, being a trainee graduate lawyer - may require so much work that the deal may not be _ **that** _ much better.)

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/40 "2021-04-29T02:14:24Z")

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![Snail on razor edge](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/6/5/1650890251af753434769b51189d3f131b044f42.jpeg)  
I’m still here! 😬

I kinda see the forums as a chess match with words. The ISD volunteered, they should harbor no ill will towards anyone.

As for being paid, I think they should just so they don’t store up a file of banned posts that would **really** embarrass CCP if they did publish. 😏

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/41 "2021-04-29T02:23:54Z")

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Nope, no ill will here, just follow the rules and we’re happy.

Also, some of the posts are pretty bad, but we’re covered from publishing them.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/isd-volunteering-discussion/308258/42 "2021-04-29T02:52:50Z")

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“The rules”? C’mon, man. You know better than anyone how fluid those rules are.

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