# It is the 15th anniversary of the Empress's Historic Announcement **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [December 24, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729 "2023-12-24T12:56:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Louella\_Dougans](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/louella_dougans/32/402944_2.png) [@Louella\_Dougans](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Louella_Dougans)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/1 "2023-12-24T12:56:19Z")
It is the 15th anniversary of the Empress Jamyl 1’s (may her soul be at peace) [Historic Announcement of the Emancipation of the Minmatar.](https://universe.eveonline.com/new-eden-news/empress-jamyl-i-makes-historic-emancipation-announcement) The New Age that was foreseen by Empress Jamyl in her visions given to her by God, continues to approach at the speed of 1year per year, though its ETA remains unclear. Possibly due to the Uncertainty Principle, we know how fast it is moving, but not where it is. I defer to Her Majesty’s Imperial Physicists on that matter. The Empress Catiz 1 (long may she reign) continues to rule in the manner to which we have become accustomed. Holder political machinations continue to turn their wheels, grinding ever onwards with that certain tedious inevitability that we all so much enjoy and revel in. The coming New Year as ever brings the notion of Hope and Change, and it will be seen how this turns out. May God bless us, one and all, except for sabiks and equilibriumists and people who leave sticky handprints on door handles in church. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/2 "2023-12-24T17:37:13Z")
Slavery is eternal, and God demonstrated just how eternal slavery is when he allowed a band of demons to “one shot” anti-Empress Jamyl – an act that could only be supernatural – for her crimes against the God and his Scriptures. Not only will slavery be eternal due to endless conquests producing an endless supply of slaves, but because the Minmatar made themselves a _permanent slave people_ on account of their Rebellion. A permanent slave people who needs never – no _must_ never – be freed. Slavery forever, amen, and Amarr Victor. ---
**Author:** ![Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lunarisse_aspenstar/32/478487_2.png) [@Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lunarisse_Aspenstar)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/3 "2023-12-24T23:54:09Z")
> [@Nauplius](#): > > Various ramblings The _Current Empress_ has a more [nuanced view](https://universe.eveonline.com/new-eden-news/empress-catiz-proclaims-imperial-edict-offering-path-to-freedom). ---
**Author:** ![Yuu\_Sharisa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuu_sharisa/32/389726_2.png) [@Yuu\_Sharisa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuu_Sharisa)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/4 "2023-12-25T01:44:25Z")
Honesty, I think we should just trust our Empress in every decision that she makes and we should just support that, you know, and be faithful in what happens. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/5 "2023-12-25T13:57:48Z")
If we had a True Empress, that would be wise advice. But we do not. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/6 "2023-12-25T18:15:12Z")
Mr. Nauplius, when you think the leaders of your religion about the need to redeem and reunite all humankind in your god’s light have gone astray because they’re inflicting insufficient suffering and misery, they … might not be the ones who have gone astray. At their best the Amarr sometimes make me feel as though I really am missing something important. Your Sedevacantist movement, though, well, it’s a bit of a puzzle to me how you manage to recruit any followers at all. Are they all just sadists? Masochists? … Or, maybe just people who needed more, _a lot_ more, structure in their lives. … Even if it was totally arbitrary. Big universe I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/7 "2023-12-25T22:04:19Z")
“ I give to you the destiny of Faith, And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, **CONQUER IN MY NAME** , and reclaim that which I have given." _- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13_ Sedevacantism is for those who believe the emphasized text to be more than a gentle suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/8 "2023-12-25T23:15:11Z")
And Vak’Atioth to be a hiccup rather than a rebuke? Something short of proof that the Empire can’t just assume it’ll win every battle? When you’re leading people into an extremely foreseeable series of nothing-good it might be a notion to double-check whether it’s really God that’s inspiring you or just your own accursed ego. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/9 "2023-12-26T00:37:35Z")
There is no verse in the Scriptures that says, “Thou shalt halt the Reclaiming when thou losest one single battle.” ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/10 "2023-12-26T06:22:45Z")
Perhaps not, but it does seem victory is not assured-- so taking on the whole cluster is a major strategic problem. Even if you’re not big on its implications (or its willingness to take “conquer” figuratively), the Pax Amarria has a pretty practical answer to that problem. Unless you’re eager to go out like Sansha’s Nation? Where literalism gets you crushed, it’s wise to look for other interpretations. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/11 "2023-12-26T18:19:20Z")
There is no need to take on the entire cluster at once. First, we join with the Gallente in a genocidal war of enslavement and extermination against the Caldari and Minmatar. The enemy being massively outnumbered, we will win easily. Next we take down the Gallente. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/12 "2023-12-26T19:34:19Z")
So, little problem there? The Gallente aren’t remotely that stupid. Come to that, neither are the Amarr. ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/13 "2023-12-27T05:26:58Z")
This thread aged well. Sosala says greetings from the Minmatar. ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Cultist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_cultist/32/388342_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Cultist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Cultist)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/14 "2023-12-27T09:09:23Z")
People who Fiddle with Social Media Devices during the Sermon should Also be Added to the List. ---
**Author:** ![Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lunarisse_aspenstar/32/478487_2.png) [@Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lunarisse_Aspenstar)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/15 "2023-12-27T14:53:56Z")
I have been recently told i am overinclusive on ‘the List’ ---
**Author:** ![Vaari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vaari/32/373419_2.png) [@Vaari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vaari)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/16 "2023-12-31T22:01:38Z")
hrrr hrrr ---
**Author:** ![Eney\_Issier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eney_issier/32/472040_2.png) [@Eney\_Issier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eney_Issier)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/17 "2024-01-06T18:15:30Z")
> [@Nauplius](#): > > There is no need to take on the entire cluster at once. First, we join with the Gallente in a genocidal war of enslavement and extermination against the Caldari and Minmatar Why did I forsee following when I read above? > [@Nauplius](#): > > Next we take down the Gallente. Gratulation on painting your empire as backstabbers. ---
**Author:** ![Lucea\_Ajuuk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucea_ajuuk/32/408494_2.png) [@Lucea\_Ajuuk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucea_Ajuuk)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/18 "2024-01-23T01:02:49Z")
I write of Jamyl with a heavy heart and a careful hand. In my youth I was awestruck by her grace and wisdom. Her sudden death shattered my world from top to bottom and in more ways than one. My House and I are not what we once were and likely will never be again. In retrospect my outlook on her has jaded over time, but I believe she foresaw that change was necessary for the Empire to survive in this tumultuous future. House Ajuuk has never been affluent, but after years of my idiot cousin’s regency we hold claim to a meager half-dozen slaves, a luxurious habitation unit, and my personal craft. When offered emancipation and a chartered shuttle one simply shrugged his shoulders and said he didn’t have anywhere else to go. They spend their time attending to tasks too complex for my automata to perform, often clerical work or drone maintenance. Point being: Those who choose to embrace their Reclamation will continue to serve God, slave or not. I’ve never known a Holder that could beat their property to salvation. On the contrary, the ones that try often catch a bullet or beam for their trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/19 "2024-01-23T01:59:46Z")
> [@Eney\_Issier](#): > > Gratulation on painting your empire as backstabbers. The punchline is a decent chunk of their FW forces…went to gallente. ---
**Author:** ![Miran\_Tereven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miran_tereven/32/383453_2.png) [@Miran\_Tereven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miran_Tereven)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729/20 "2024-01-24T20:11:47Z")
> [@Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](#): > > I have been recently told i am overinclusive on ‘the List’ What is the list? > [@Eney\_Issier](#): > > Gratulation on painting your empire as backstabbers. It is not his empire to paint. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-is-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-empresss-historic-announcement/433729.md?page=2)