# It should not be possible to avoid ship loss in combat by storing your ship in a bowhead **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 5, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065 "2020-04-05T12:14:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/324 "2020-04-08T20:49:32Z")
Wow, this thread still going on? It was solved in the 4th post > [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > It would probably be easier and more fair just to prevent switching or storing ships while tackled. Probably station docking too, as it already is for Upwell structures. Nobody has disputed this yet… ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/325 "2020-04-08T20:52:45Z")
You’re wrong. One of the reasons this thread has kept going on is precisely that some aren’t satisfied with that and think more is needed to punish the evil Bowheads. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/326 "2020-04-08T20:53:15Z")
Were social distancing ourselves from some other thd’s. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/327 "2020-04-08T21:22:27Z")
No one of them is here to learn something about the game. It’s ironic how they shed tears about fairness but come to the forums to cry for changes to the existing mechanics in their favor. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/328 "2020-04-08T21:30:20Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > You’re wrong. One of the reasons this thread has kept going on is precisely that some aren’t satisfied with that and think more is needed to punish the evil Bowheads. ![evil bowhead](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/9/19e6d0f2ab0a66538050a37f36e05a1607f0f67c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/329 "2020-04-08T22:13:10Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > No one of them is here to learn something about the game. Or to work for it. Wheres my award for just showing up. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/330 "2020-04-09T07:48:53Z")
> [@Cheseburg](#): > > why it’s so lame. Not using capitalization is lame. ---
**Author:** ![Ravemore\_Achnuman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravemore_achnuman/32/436222_2.png) [@Ravemore\_Achnuman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravemore_Achnuman)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/331 "2020-05-16T00:01:11Z")
I agree 100%. That Bowhead should go suspect. We have been dealing with this mechanics abuse for weeks at a High Sec NPC station with a Faction Warfare group using a Neutral Bowhead for this. I don’t care what anyone says… its a mechanics abuse. As soon as you get them into armor they stop shooting, wait, swap ships, and you’re facing a fresh enemy ship. There is no way to kill them with a small gang. So frustrating. It feels like the same problem as when there were neutral reps. If a neutral ship contributes in any way to an engagement they should have to face the consequences. We’ve just about given up and will probably just avoid the system whenever they are there. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/332 "2020-05-16T00:07:23Z")
Y’all just a bunch of BOWHEADS! ![bowhead](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/a/5aa87990a7f7431f533e53ec9a1cce3e95e421ba.jpeg) Side note, what is so special about the Bowhead and why does everyone own one? ---
**Author:** ![Mistress\_Blue\_Ice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mistress_blue_ice/32/201736_2.png) [@Mistress\_Blue\_Ice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mistress_Blue_Ice)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/333 "2020-05-16T01:00:03Z")
I agree. After all the pain and suffering they have caused to thousands of people, they should get temp-banned and severely warned. There have been several groups threatening to take the fight to them, and apparently they have, and taking the f@@@@@s way out should be unacceptable to anyone and CCP, too. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/334 "2020-05-16T01:22:15Z")
Is that a serious question, Olaf? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/335 "2020-05-16T02:00:29Z")
> [@Mistress\_Blue\_Ice](#): > > After all the pain and suffering they have caused to thousands of people, they should get temp-banned and severely warned. Boo hoo. This is part of EVE, if you don’t like it leave highsec so you can just kill the Bowhead once the store the ships. Nobody is going to get banned for “pain and suffering” just because you lost at EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/336 "2020-05-16T02:19:41Z")
Yes it was Rapunzel ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/337 "2020-05-16T02:21:02Z")
People haul their fleets around in bowheads. They are incredibly convenient. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/338 "2020-05-16T02:26:51Z")
I thought they are used to close large wormholes after being fitted with a rigs anchor. How about that? ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/339 "2020-05-16T02:30:34Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Boo hoo. This is part of EVE, if you don’t like it leave highsec so you can just kill the Bowhead once the store the ships. Nobody is going to get banned for “pain and suffering” just because you lost at EVE. As stated multiple times in the thread the Bowhead never has to break tether from a citadel to perform this feat. You can’t shoot it. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/340 "2020-05-16T02:36:02Z")
Bowhead should become suspect … rly ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/341 "2020-05-16T02:39:11Z")
No. Enough with the timers/suspect/status BullS… already. It is so convoluted as it is. Just prevent a ship swap if a ship is sufficiently scrammed. JUST LIKE THE CURRENT UPWELL MECHANICS. It is universal and can be applied everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/342 "2020-05-16T02:40:23Z")
> [@Wanda\_Fayne](#): > > No. > > Enough with the timers/suspect/status BullS… already. It is so convoluted as it is. > > Just prevent a ship swap if a ship is sufficiently scrammed. > JUST LIKE THE CURRENT UPWELL MECHANICS. > It is universal and can be applied everywhere. killing the bowhead is more fun … isn’t it ? ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065/343 "2020-05-16T02:41:18Z")
It is going to be tethered anyway. Even suspect you can’t shoot it. So no. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/it-should-not-be-possible-to-avoid-ship-loss-in-combat-by-storing-your-ship-in-a-bowhead/230065.md?page=18)