# I've moved back to High Sec and I can see

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 26, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377 "2021-07-26T15:35:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/21 "2021-08-11T21:44:12Z")

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You would be surprised how many people are still on the forums but don’t log in much it at all to the game.

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**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/22 "2021-08-12T07:36:35Z")

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Where have I heard this before…?

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**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/23 "2021-08-12T07:59:14Z")

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> [@JayEm\_HighCastle](#):
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> Then why are you here now?

???  
???

> [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](#):
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> You would be surprised how many people are still on the forums but don’t log in much it at all to the game.

I’m also interested in knowing why you are here now? You certainly can duck the question again.

I’m not saying you’re not welcome (it’s not my forum) but this place (I presume) is for actual players to discuss the game and having non-players is kinda dilutive. I’m hopeful that the moderators and those who value the content here have some type of validation / filter process.

I was in a weeks long discussion about the Orca with a group obsessed over the fact that a player “can” AFK mine with augmented drones. An entire false narrative was produced that Eve is full of AFK Orca miners that out number Orcas actually supporting fleets. The anti Orca crowd was lobbying to have the Orca nerfed and could not produce one screen shot of the AFK Orca hoard.

By their comments many were utterly uniformed about mining and that now makes more sense knowing that I would be surprised “how many people…don’t log in.”

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/24 "2021-08-12T08:17:09Z")

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> [@Hans\_Devin](#):
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> a player “can” AFK mine with augmented drones

AFK Mining works better with T1 Drones

> [@Hans\_Devin](#):
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> An entire false narrative was produced that Eve is full of AFK Orca miners that out number Orcas actually supporting fleets

And you proved your case, right?

> [@Hans\_Devin](#):
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> By their comments many were utterly uniformed

I know how you feel

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**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/25 "2021-08-12T08:32:14Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> And you proved your case, right?

And everyone clapped.

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**Author:** ![Luwc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luwc/32/281730_2.png) [@Luwc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luwc)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/26 "2021-08-12T09:23:02Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> AFK Mining works better with T1 Drones

I use the T2 with a higs rig so I cant be bumped.  
Make pings around the belt first and with a 500mn MWD you warp within 10 seconds.

Damage Control and Bulkhead in the lows with shield Tank and emergency shield boosts in the highs. Entire setup makes it an extremely unlikely ganktarget.

Have seen procs getting ganked next to me while I happily wait for “the asteriod is depleted” as I do something else.

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/27 "2021-08-12T16:37:36Z")

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Day tripping is much different than planting stakes.

–Gadget, Real Estate Developer and Demolitionist

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**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/28 "2021-08-13T01:37:38Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> And you proved your case, right?

(Good question, well played)

If not, I disproved their case.

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**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/29 "2021-08-13T02:05:51Z")

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> [@Hans\_Devin](#):
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> If not, I disproved their case.

As some of those you viewed as “spreading false narrative” I have to say that you didn’t proved or disproved anything. Merely you managed to bore me.

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**Author:** ![Vekku\_Dradis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vekku_dradis/32/463196_2.png) [@Vekku\_Dradis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vekku_Dradis)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/30 "2021-08-13T04:12:34Z")

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> [@Hans\_Devin](#):
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> I’m hopeful that the moderators and those who value the content here have some type of validation / filter process.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/d/3/0d3f94f4fb1f1ca418bbd484f3075bdfdae04e43.gif)

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/31 "2021-08-13T06:15:31Z")

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Of course you did.

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**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/32 "2021-08-14T06:01:35Z")

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> [@Pan\_Dora1](#):
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> As some of those you viewed as “spreading false narrative” I have to say

So you are more than one - you are “some”.

Interesting.

For “some” so bored you had to comment again. Truth is I brought the wood and that narrative folded like a wet paper bag. Ya 'll still remember - good.

The “we” keeps coming out. “We” is a bunch of sore losers who stopped playing the game and want to grief their old lover. Be gone griefer.

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**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/33 "2021-08-14T06:02:23Z")

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Yea, that was funny. Well played.

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**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/34 "2021-08-14T06:09:26Z")

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Play sports. Live a long life. You get to know when the other side gives up.

Hands on hips, watching the clock, looking down…and condescension, of course.

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**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/35 "2021-08-14T06:16:31Z")

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> [@Pan\_Dora1](#):
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> And everyone clapped.

I suppose there is proof of that above too.

I must admit I was slow on the uptick concerning proof of the outrageous claims. Ya’ll don’t play or log in anymore. Just griefing an old love (game). It’s a big ocean, you’ll find another game, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/36 "2021-08-14T06:27:51Z")

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I hate poetry so so very much.

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**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/37 "2021-08-14T06:50:02Z")

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> [@Hans\_Devin](#):
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> Truth is I brought the wood and that narrative folded like a wet paper bag.

See Hans, that is why is so boring to talk to you.

It don’t matter that i never claimed that AFK mining was the problem.  
It don’t matter that I actually said that it is not the issue.  
It don’t even matter that this was in a different thread.  
It don’t even matter that this thread is already over by now.

You keep repeating over and over how how you “saved” Eve from false narratives.

What happens only in your head is boring as hell.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/38 "2021-08-14T07:14:53Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> I hate poetry so so very much.

You hate poetry very much  
It hurts your brain, makes you say “ouch!”  
But as a poet playing EVE  
Who is a pirate, and a thief  
You’re not safe even here from me  
Tormented by my forum grief

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**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/39 "2021-08-14T07:27:43Z")

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I’m in your head rent free.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ive-moved-back-to-high-sec-and-i-can-see/321377/40 "2021-08-14T07:31:45Z")

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Fortunately rhymes are not by default poems.

They suck… but differently.

Theres… Computers…

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/c/2c1ccb45d4ad2c39dcb2f68552c6c51c21b1bd3d.jpeg "Bill and Ted: San Dimas High School Football Rules!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVle0kopfes)

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