# January 2019 Release - Known Issues

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, release, official\
**Created:** [January 15, 2019, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573 "2019-01-15T10:16:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/46 "2019-01-22T05:55:30Z")

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> [@Shekni](#):
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> CD blobs are extremely rare, most of them done for fun (like venture fleets etc). Guess why? They are not efficient.

A venture/CD fleet doesn’t sound efficient at all, though the word that should bee highlighted is “fun”. People do fleets that are just silly in the name of fun that they wouldn’t do when there’s an actual objective to be completed.

> [@Shekni](#):
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> This ‘abuse’ you are talking about has no practical use (you obviously didnt try that in combat).

I guess you missed the part where pandemic legion started to use a bunch of ravens and CD’s to “boosh” themselves around citadels and kite them to death? It was hailed at the time as inspirational genius, defeating a trifecta of “broken” ( which have since been changed ) mechanics of oppressive citadel void bombing/neutralizing and constant citadel warp scram/stasis webifying.

> [@Shekni](#):
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> P.S. If you think CD’s are unbalanced, please start a discussion elsewhere, this thread is for bugs. A change done without discussion and not listed in patch notes is a bug.

That depends on your point of view. When stealth bombers were patched many moons ago there was an “issue” that stopped the normal behaviour of cloaked ships de-cloaking each other when two cloaked ships approached within the de-cloaking proximity range of each other.

To some this would have indeed been seen as a “bug” ( I believe CCP even stated as such ) though to many others the change meant that stealth fleets became significantly more practical to operate and remain so to this day.

> [@Shekni](#):
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> Thats not how balancing should be done.

It is far from optimal, but like the example above, sometimes accidents lead down paths that are ultimately beneficial and it is wondered why the mechanic wasn’t that way from the begining.

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**Author:** ![Devoros\_Vyndiver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/devoros_vyndiver/32/168959_2.png) [@Devoros\_Vyndiver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Devoros_Vyndiver)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/47 "2019-01-22T13:16:33Z")

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Can’t see any player owned structures on my overview unless I’m near one. And the ones I have access to show I don’t have access, but I can still dock in them.

I thought there was suppose to be a “fix” for these issues after undocking, not break it completely?

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/48 "2019-01-22T14:51:52Z")

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Thanks for reporting this, this issue was resolved this morning, restarting your client should get you the fix 🙂

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**Author:** ![production\_darkhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/production_darkhammer/32/53308_2.png) [@production\_darkhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/production_darkhammer)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/49 "2019-01-22T15:49:18Z")

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the issue has not been resolved. i am still having it. i cannot control my citadels. i am in the process of trying to refuel them and am unable to. i closed and reopened my client several times and it finally let me fuel one of them but the issue still persists on all my others. i have tried changing structure profiles even making new public ones with no restricted access and i cannot take control of my citadels. they also seem to appear and disappear from my overview between resets of the client.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/50 "2019-01-22T15:51:17Z")

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Aside from your final point regarding overviews, the issues you are talking about there are wildly different from the point I was responding to. Could you please submit a bug report for the problems you are experiencing and we’ll take a look, thanks!

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**Author:** ![production\_darkhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/production_darkhammer/32/53308_2.png) [@production\_darkhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/production_darkhammer)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/51 "2019-01-22T15:53:39Z")

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i have an open ticket and have been waiting for a response. i have 4 hours until my citadels offline and lose 4-5 week pulls

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/52 "2019-01-22T15:54:58Z")

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I don’t see any bug report from you, was it reported from a different character? Could you give me the BR number?

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**Author:** ![production\_darkhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/production_darkhammer/32/53308_2.png) [@production\_darkhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/production_darkhammer)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/53 "2019-01-22T15:55:47Z")

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SUPPORT REQUEST #848855 on character admiral darkhammer

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/54 "2019-01-22T15:58:09Z")

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Alright, that’s a support ticket to our customer service team who can’t help with bugs. Regardless, if admiral darkhammer is the character with the issue I’ll take a look at what I can see, thanks.

If you have time reproducing the issue on the affected character and submitting a bug report (F12 -\> Report Bug) would be super helpful as it will give us all your client logs.

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**Author:** ![production\_darkhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/production_darkhammer/32/53308_2.png) [@production\_darkhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/production_darkhammer)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/55 "2019-01-22T15:59:26Z")

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doing it now on this character

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**Author:** ![production\_darkhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/production_darkhammer/32/53308_2.png) [@production\_darkhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/production_darkhammer)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/56 "2019-01-22T16:03:13Z")

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ID EBR-170468

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/57 "2019-01-22T16:16:21Z")

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Thanks for the bug report, I’ve got it now. It seems that both of the structures you cannot access have a different access list assigned to them than the one you can access, this other access list doesn’t appear to include any of your characters that you reference. Can you please confirm that this is intentional?

If not, once you have resolved this please be aware that i can take up to 5 minutes for an access list change to apply.

I hope this helps!

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**Author:** ![production\_darkhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/production_darkhammer/32/53308_2.png) [@production\_darkhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/production_darkhammer)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/58 "2019-01-22T16:29:35Z")

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i have been toying with all of my access lists to try and get it to work. this is not intentional. both of the access lists should have my entire corp set to dock and gun. earlier it was saying i did not have docking access on the overview yet i was tethered and able to dock.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/59 "2019-01-22T16:42:48Z")

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I understand that, let me be clear, the access list you have on the structures you are unable to access, do not have your characters on them.

This issue you mention here:

> [@production\_darkhammer](#):
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> earlier it was saying i did not have docking access on the overview yet i was tethered and able to dock.

Is not related to this at all and was fixed this morning.

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**Author:** ![Shekni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shekni/32/151520_2.png) [@Shekni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shekni)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/60 "2019-01-22T17:51:07Z")

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> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#):
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> I guess you missed the part where pandemic legion started to use a bunch of ravens and CD’s to “boosh” themselves around citadels and kite them to death?

I checked latest PL bashes and … HAC’s, capitals, T3C’s, …, even AF’s. Found no CD bunches. They seem to have forgotten their genuine invention. You dont really need that to kill a citadel, 1 CD is enough as gtfo option. So again, for fun - yes, practical use - no. You cant call broken what is not even close to meta.

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**Author:** ![Kathamar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kathamar/32/395261_2.png) [@Kathamar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kathamar)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/61 "2019-01-26T19:28:02Z")

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Opening the map takes about 30 seconds where as before it was instant. opening info panels of systems while in the map also takes longer than it used to. Maybe this is a first world problem but it’s been annoying enough for the last week or so that I felt I should say something about it.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/january-2019-release-known-issues/133573/62 "2019-04-26T19:28:05Z")

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