# Jita, Gankers and Automation

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 30, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413 "2022-10-30T14:02:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/41 "2022-11-02T22:03:31Z")

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Looks like he has been unbanned.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/42 "2022-11-03T08:58:43Z")

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Maybe he erased his criminal record using (real-life) clone soldier tags ($$$). 😛 😉 🤔

:psyccp:

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**Author:** ![Bladewise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bladewise/32/394387_2.png) [@Bladewise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bladewise)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/43 "2022-12-02T02:01:51Z")

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Nah, he probably made a fake video of him not using software and sent it in. Honestly CCP is pretty piss poor when it comes to banning ACTUAL cheaters. It’s amazing that I can get mass reported and almost immediately banned with no evidence but when we have PILES of evidence CCP doesn’t do ■■■■.

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**Author:** ![Vanessa\_Warwind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vanessa_warwind/32/423909_2.png) [@Vanessa\_Warwind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vanessa_Warwind)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/44 "2022-12-13T17:32:19Z")

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just throwing it the loodboot heard is already migrating to other areas ever seens someone canpflipping loot in 0.001 seconds from a wreck with a flipper into a dst fleet hangar ?

spoiler i have seen already to many of them and reportet them to ccp guess what happend … 😃

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/45 "2022-12-13T22:44:55Z")

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I watched the Olympics one time. They are totally fake. Nobody can run that fast.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/46 "2022-12-13T23:07:13Z")

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| 23:04:32 | Combat | Warp disruption attempt from Mateo lex LEXS to one legged pony [90812]\<SMAD\>(Occator) |
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| 23:04:31 | Notify | Alexandrina lex: You have foolishly engaged in criminal activity within sight of sentry guns and must suffer the consequences. |
| 23:04:31 | Notify | Alexandrina lex, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed. |
| 23:04:31 | Notify | Laety lex, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed. |
| 23:04:31 | Notify | Laety lex: You have foolishly engaged in criminal activity within sight of sentry guns and must suffer the consequences. |
| 23:04:31 | Notify | Mateo lex, criminals are not welcome here. Leave now or be destroyed. |
| 23:04:31 | Notify | Mateo lex: You have foolishly engaged in criminal activity within sight of sentry guns and must suffer the consequences. |
| 23:03:43 | Notify | You have entered Caldari space Ahmed Al Ali. Since you have proven to be an enemy to our people, you will be terminated! |
| 23:02:47 | Notify | Targeting attempt failed as the designated object is no longer present. |

as I expected

3 tornados controlled by single player shooting in same second.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/47 "2022-12-14T12:29:00Z")

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Well just watched MacGybo video from one day ago and this seems very odd.

Now as this, what seems unfair game play and affects my side and the gankers side, maybe we should do something about it, now I know MacGybo had a go at ganking the bot ships and we ask for kr on his characters but this is slow going, maybe it’s time to act as eve players together and do something.

How many cats do you need to take out a tornado and can it still be done in jita, the only way to stop this is if we take action together, every eve player who doesn’t like cheats.

So post ideas here and see what we can do, as it’s obvious ccp can’t seem to stop him.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/48 "2022-12-14T13:10:07Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Nobody can run that fast

you would if your pants were on fire

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**Author:** ![Adolfo\_di\_Pasqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adolfo_di_pasqua/32/268593_2.png) [@Adolfo\_di\_Pasqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adolfo_di_Pasqua)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/49 "2022-12-14T13:50:58Z")

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not only gankers use scripts. there’s also an guy using bot scripts to kill the gankers. he gets on several kills simultaneously, in the same second, before concord arrives and even before other people get to shoot at any of the gankers. ccp doesnt do anything about it.

 ![Solo](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/4/8/b48e9f64ef63306d25baefd0532f10671cefa65f.png)

5 in the same second:  
 ![5](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/e/a/0ea46edcd665db7e0785b738bcdef43c05afe8fd.png)

 ![10](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/1/5/a1579cec89a957418c846f749ec0ef48b791a864.png)

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/50 "2022-12-14T14:15:55Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> How many cats do you need to take out a tornado and can it still be done in jita, the only way to stop this is if we take action together, every eve player who doesn’t like cheats.

Don’t need any cats at all. Bump the guy with a bunch of Stabbers.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/51 "2022-12-14T14:31:57Z")

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> [@Adolfo\_di\_Pasqua](#):
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> not only gankers use scripts. there’s also an guy using bot scripts to kill the gankers. he gets on several kills simultaneously, in the same second, before concord arrives and even before other people get to shoot at any of the gankers. ccp doesnt do anything about it.

Well that’s Adrian Vexier, many people know him and his escapades but for once I can say he has been hunting these bot with kr he has been collecting, in fact we helped each other the other day and I also believe if you are fast you can fire two or 3 ships in the same server tick, I’ve seen I think Kusion or one of the big gankers do it n a video, I myself got an alt to hit the target on the same time stamp.

If Adrian was botting why ask me if I wanted to help him.

Also if your ready and per locked you can get a very high % of the kill before anyone else has time to fire. My best is 97% just sentry’s got the 1st shot in.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/52 "2022-12-14T14:35:08Z")

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But ganking a bot ganker would be so much better, after all Eve is about apocalyptic Warfare

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/53 "2022-12-14T14:43:32Z")

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I’m quite happy to bring on my ganker alt for any such task. That account has a dozen or so 750 DPS T2 Catalysts stationed in Elonaya. Just need to get a fleet going. A Tornado…hmm…I’d guess you’d need at least 7 Catalysts. It really depends. One can get a Tornado to good EHP, but would a ganker bot want to waste the money on tank.

Who you gonna call ? Botbusters !

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/54 "2022-12-14T14:52:11Z")

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Let’s see who else wants in, I don’t know what I’m doing in the ganker area, but happy to add my team in

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/55 "2022-12-14T14:59:25Z")

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In one of those beautiful synchronicities of life…I just got a ’ Live Tornado Chase’ notification over on my storm chasing website.

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**Author:** ![Adolfo\_di\_Pasqua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adolfo_di_pasqua/32/268593_2.png) [@Adolfo\_di\_Pasqua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adolfo_di_Pasqua)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/56 "2022-12-14T15:34:58Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Well that’s Adrian Vexier,

yes that’s the name. Well known ganker and cheater. no need for you to get all defensive of him, he’s pretty much protected by his dev friends. i just wanted to point out that both sides use scripts. not much you can do against them really except smile and move on.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/57 "2022-12-14T15:45:21Z")

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Yeah I suspect that lot of kill whorers will use a simple macro that will press the F1 for them every second so they can get their juicy kills without effort.

This guy seems to use much more elaborated script as this requires to have them all pretarget and then press each F key to each ganker. Which is manually not doable due to the need of mouse movements to swap current target. He is likely using a hotkey for changing current target, but even with that I don’t think you can press that many keys within 1 second time frame without macro.

But maybe the killmail timestamp is misleading, I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/58 "2022-12-14T15:57:49Z")

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You can’t gank tornado gankers with anything but another Tornado. Or maybe a fleet of thrashers, but that is too risky as it gives him time to dock.

Even without scripts you can dock very fast even if you don’t see it coming. 2 seconds at worst. And we suspect him from using script to instadock the moment he gets suspect flag. I bet he will do the same if you damage him.

A one Tornado can oneshot another 0tank Tornado, but that is too expensive for anyone not earning billions a day. Not just because of the ship cost, but also because of the tag costs if you keep doing this over and over.

Ultimately there is not much you can do against them, otherwise they wouldn’t be there all day. Ganking at stations is the safest place you can gank.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/59 "2022-12-14T16:00:06Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> If Adrian was botting why ask me if I wanted to help him.

Because you are famous sweetie.

Besides, it is one of the only ways to get you on his zkillboard as you are not easy to kill , only 4 people having had the pleasure, 3 of them having your frozen anti ganking corpse.

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/5/b/55b2caba857273865d6cdc5aa44fe62e783a1fe0.png)

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**Author:** ![Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ha_kar_ma_gor/32/352552_2.png) [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ha_Kar_Ma_Gor)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/jita-gankers-and-automation/382413/60 "2022-12-14T16:39:21Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Adrian Vexier

that name sounds strangely familiar…

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