# Join the ingame channel "Highsec Lobby" and help make a better highsec! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 23, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294 "2020-01-23T21:20:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/202 "2020-01-25T02:20:36Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > No one in any space should expect to plex on that. That’s why emerging conduits got nerfed. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/203 "2020-01-25T02:41:10Z")
People weren’t plexing on 2 hours a week. Ignore that 400/hour figure people have been tossing around, always divide by the number of accounts involved to get a real figure. Not that I have an issue with EC being nerfed. But they weren’t as crazy as people have been spinning. ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/204 "2020-01-25T02:49:05Z")
Who is “we” ? Because I don’t know a lot of “we” that would actually follow you. Common dude. You want to have incomes just as good as Null sec ones. You want to be the leader of a great group of players just like a Null sec bloc. Seriously tho, I’m not even kidding when I tell you that everything you want IS in Null sec. For some strange reason you put into your mind some obligation to stay in High Sec forever and to “protect” the High Sec players (who never asked it btw), meanwhile you could just move to Null where everything you are asking for is already there. What’s the deal, you wanna complain because it makes you look important even if the solution already exist? ---
**Author:** ![Merovee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merovee/32/167629_2.png) [@Merovee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merovee)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/205 "2020-01-25T05:16:56Z")
Casual players don’t need to grind isk, being casual myself I keep an eye out for plex sales and use my pension money to buy what I need. I rather play than grind. But you other people please grind that iskies so you buy my over priced plexes. 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/206 "2020-01-25T08:20:05Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > when we have enough leave the game. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/207 "2020-01-25T08:22:07Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Don’t worry bittervets leave the game en masse, each time they do your power gets weaker and the new players that replace you get stronger. Are you utterly deranged? > [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > and the new generation demands better incomes for the time we spend in the game, wherever it may be, that’s our right as customers. You just answered the question yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_Okel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ben_okel/32/446086_2.png) [@Ben\_Okel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ben_Okel)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/208 "2020-01-25T11:40:58Z")
Yes, they were that bad. For every few people who can only play a couple of hours a week you have people who can play a couple of hours daily and farm the living ■■■■ out of EC’s which is what happened. I made 4-500m/hour with 3 accounts, that’s no joke. I’m not that braindead to farm 9 hours straight but that’s how long it would take to plex them all. It was major ISK for very little risk ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/209 "2020-01-25T14:42:33Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > Are you utterly deranged? Next to many other things, this specific mentally ill person is also unaware of CCP actively trying to bring back vets. ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/210 "2020-01-25T14:44:34Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > My concern is for the people who leave, I would rather they stay, hence why I post. You are such a bad liar. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/211 "2020-01-25T16:14:30Z")
> Who is “we” ? > > Because I don’t know a lot of “we” that would actually follow you. > > Common dude. > > You want to have incomes just as good as Null sec ones. > > You want to be the leader of a great group of players just like a Null sec bloc. > > Seriously tho, I’m not even kidding when I tell you that everything you want IS in Null sec. For some strange reason you put into your mind some obligation to stay in High Sec forever and to “protect” the High Sec players (who never asked it btw), meanwhile you could just move to Null where everything you are asking for is already there. > > What’s the deal, you wanna complain because it makes you look important even if the solution already exist? Because highsec is my home, and I share it with 75% of the playerbase. I want it improved so that it is fun, if one day I get an empire building itch of course I can move to nullsec. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/212 "2020-01-25T16:14:50Z")
> this specific mentally ill person Your projecting hardcore atm. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/213 "2020-01-25T16:15:03Z")
> You are such a bad liar. nah you are ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/214 "2020-01-25T16:15:53Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > I share it with 75% of the playerbase Where is that % from? ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/215 "2020-01-25T16:16:46Z")
> Where is that % from? Citations from a few people arguing against me awhile back, I liked it so I use it now. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/216 "2020-01-25T16:17:45Z")
So you you don’t have anything substantial to back that up…ok then… ---
**Author:** ![z0ra\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0ra_berg/32/187042_2.png) [@z0ra\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0ra_Berg)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/217 "2020-01-25T16:23:35Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > projecting 1. Explain in 50 words, or more, how to spot someone who is “projecting”, how one can safely conclude that someone is projecting and what kind of information is required to be able to see the hints required to draw a conclusion. 2. You’re too easily giving away who you are. Low class noob. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/218 "2020-01-25T16:33:05Z")
> 1. Explain in 50 words, or more, how to spot someone who is “projecting”, how one can safely conclude that someone is projecting and what kind of information is required to be able to see the hints required to draw a conclusion. > 2. You’re too easily giving away who you are. > > Low class noob. Calm down bittervet ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/219 "2020-01-25T16:33:28Z")
> So you you don’t have anything substantial to back that up…ok then… I just said the statistic, up to you to believe it or not. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/220 "2020-01-25T16:39:58Z")
So plex is back down at 1.2 Bill per month is it? I legit don’t follow plex prices but thought it was about 2 bill. ---
**Author:** ![Karynn\_Denton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karynn_denton/32/468090_2.png) [@Karynn\_Denton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karynn_Denton)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/222 "2020-01-25T17:20:39Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Because highsec is my home, and I share it with 75% of the playerbase. It’s my home too, but I’m not buying into your pitch. I get the feeling I’m not the only one. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294.md?page=12)