# Join the ingame channel "Highsec Lobby" and help make a better highsec! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 23, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294 "2020-01-23T21:20:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Legit\_HyperN\_et](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legit_hypern_et/32/181363_2.png) [@Legit\_HyperN\_et](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legit_HyperN_et)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/223 "2020-01-25T17:39:18Z")
The best solution to the highsec problem would be to implement a gradual system whereby a player over 6 months old is no longer allowed to enter highsec and must relocate to low or null. It allows the new players to not get trampled on by veterans and keeps risk averse losers on their toes. CCP implement now! ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/224 "2020-01-25T17:49:47Z")
> [@Solomon\_Iskander](#): > > As opposed to the blue blob encrusted long term members of the CSM who use their members as lobbyists and buy their votes? I’m not sure you understood what I’m saying is the real problem with your alliance here. I haven’t seen goons recruit **newbies** in rookie systems, so they can later _ **use** _ them for lobbying purposes, have you? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/225 "2020-01-25T18:01:47Z")
> [@Legit\_HyperN\_et](#): > > The best solution to the highsec problem would be to implement a gradual system whereby a player over 6 months old is no longer allowed to enter highsec > [@Legit\_HyperN\_et](#): > > CCP implement now! No, ■■■■ off. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/226 "2020-01-25T18:32:51Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > I want it improved so that it is fun Stop lying. You want highsec farming buffed so you can make the numbers in your wallet go up faster without having to put in any more work or accept any more risk. If it was all about the fun of the PvE experience you wouldn’t care if the profit from these sites was nerfed because the experience of running them would still be just as fun. But instead all you can talk about is how your farming income needs to be higher. ---
**Author:** ![Legit\_HyperN\_et](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legit_hypern_et/32/181363_2.png) [@Legit\_HyperN\_et](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legit_HyperN_et)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/227 "2020-01-25T18:50:49Z")
I would support massive increases in easy PVE farming in highsec if they added a feature whereby if you lose a ship your wallet resets to -2 billion with no cap on how negative it can go. Totally fair. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_Okel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ben_okel/32/446086_2.png) [@Ben\_Okel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ben_Okel)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/228 "2020-01-25T19:25:18Z")
Just checked, 1.7b in Jita. So it would be around 12 hours, not 9. To plex 3 accounts, that is still very fast ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/229 "2020-01-25T19:47:47Z")
Dear, dear sabus…I’m afraid every time I see your name or the corp you run mass-spamailing people I can’t seem to help but thinking of you [getting scammed out of 90 billion isk](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/a8948t/the_incompetent_and_proud_corporation_lives_up_to/) . Not to worry, incompetent and proud corp, your ceo is on the job and will certainly teach you well! ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/230 "2020-01-25T21:22:56Z")
> [@Ben\_Okel](#): > > To plex 3 accounts, It’s also 12 hours to plex 1 account. Remember it’s multiboxing. Each account takes 12 hours work at the per account income level, not 4 hours. Though yeah, it is fast for the level of risk involved in Highsec EC, and why I’ve no objection to the nerf to them. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_Okel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ben_okel/32/446086_2.png) [@Ben\_Okel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ben_Okel)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/231 "2020-01-25T21:28:44Z")
No, that’s stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Zanthanee\_Lazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zanthanee_lazar/32/245599_2.png) [@Zanthanee\_Lazar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zanthanee_Lazar)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/232 "2020-01-25T23:16:38Z")
OP? pardon my ignorance what does that mean? ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/233 "2020-01-25T23:19:10Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > said the statistic, up to you to believe it or not. LOL…saying a stat is worthless so ya, I don’t believe it, aka you are making ■■■■ up. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/234 "2020-01-25T23:36:33Z")
Often on forums and such Original Poster or sometimes Original Post, in reference to games sometimes (such as in this case) OverPowered [something deemed too powerful]. ---
**Author:** ![Magalaus\_Shardani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magalaus_shardani/32/399592_2.png) [@Magalaus\_Shardani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magalaus_Shardani)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/235 "2020-01-26T00:53:24Z")
Ash was in karmafleet for like a week and ragequit because he kept losing ratting ships in dumb ways. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/236 "2020-01-26T01:09:52Z")
> Stop lying. You want highsec farming buffed so you can make the numbers in your wallet go up faster without having to put in any more work or accept any more risk. If it was all about the fun of the PvE experience you wouldn’t care if the profit from these sites was nerfed because the experience of running them would still be just as fun. But instead all you can talk about is how your farming income needs to be higher. I want highsec to be more fun and more profitable, I don’t see the problem with this? ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/237 "2020-01-26T01:10:34Z")
> Dear, dear sabus…I’m afraid every time I see your name or the corp you run mass-spamailing people I can’t seem to help but thinking of you [getting scammed out of 90 billion isk](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/a8948t/the_incompetent_and_proud_corporation_lives_up_to/) . Not to worry, incompetent and proud corp, your ceo is on the job and will certainly teach you well! Sometimes you lose isk, no big deal ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/238 "2020-01-26T01:11:23Z")
> LOL…saying a stat is worthless so ya, I don’t believe it, aka you are making ■■■■ up. Nope it is real ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/239 "2020-01-26T01:28:52Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > I want highsec to be more fun and more profitable, I don’t see the problem with this? The problem is that highsec has near-zero risk so it should not have more profit. And the fact that you emphasize the ISK/hour from highsec farming so much, not anything to do with the fun of the PvE activity itself, states very clearly that you are fine with highsec farming continuing to be mindless repetition of a menial task as long as it makes the numbers in your wallet go up fast enough. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/240 "2020-01-26T01:34:25Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > > LOL…saying a stat is worthless so ya, I don’t believe it, aka you are making ■■■■ up. > > Nope it is real It’s pretty sad that you can’t even back-up your claims…glad this is public record now for all to see, not that it’s a surprise to anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Solomon\_Iskander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solomon_iskander/32/496328_2.png) [@Solomon\_Iskander](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solomon_Iskander)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/241 "2020-01-26T04:16:07Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > The problem is that highsec has near-zero risk so it should not have more profit. And the fact that you emphasize the ISK/hour from highsec farming so much, not anything to do with the fun of the PvE activity itself, states very clearly that you are fine with highsec farming continuing to be mindless repetition of a menial task as long as it makes the numbers in your wallet go up fast enough. High Sec is not zero risk, anymore than Low or Null are all risk. Plenty of people lose their ships in High to NPCs all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/242 "2020-01-26T04:49:13Z")
> [@Solomon\_Iskander](#): > > Plenty of people lose their ships in High to NPCs all the time. I honestly have no idea how this is possible. EVE’s NPCs are pathetic, once you learn the basics of how to play the game you should never lose a ship to NPCs. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294.md?page=13)