# Join the ingame channel "Highsec Lobby" and help make a better highsec! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 23, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294 "2020-01-23T21:20:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/101 "2020-01-24T13:39:55Z")
I’m pretty boring though 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_Okel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ben_okel/32/446086_2.png) [@Ben\_Okel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ben_Okel)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/102 "2020-01-24T14:36:52Z")
Ignorant and clueless, you do you. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/103 "2020-01-24T15:13:28Z")
> LOL…working on another scam corp are you Naari… Bittervets too dumb to distinguish between players, love how everyone calls me this naari dude ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/104 "2020-01-24T15:16:59Z")
So to sum up, the ideal response from CCP (who are undoubtedly monitoring both your channel and this thread with great interest) would be… ![10171abaaf6ab97142c5c0295e9f6220bcbd25726ebbed73f952c69cee6e8204](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/7/f76fe1e12be64d5c6c73581e779ae256b0294f3b.jpeg) Amirite? ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/105 "2020-01-24T15:27:07Z")
lol who knows ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/106 "2020-01-24T15:34:59Z")
It’s not hard to make the comparison when you share the same name and hit the same talking posts on every post you make. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/107 "2020-01-24T15:37:53Z")
> [@Maverick\_Starcrest](#): > > But High sec needs a good ISK generation activity as well. Nope, it is too safe, keep in mind the CENTRAL feature is the economy and high sec is the enemy of a good economy. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/108 "2020-01-24T15:38:45Z")
LOL…pathetic… ---
**Author:** ![Legit\_HyperN\_et](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legit_hypern_et/32/181363_2.png) [@Legit\_HyperN\_et](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legit_HyperN_et)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/109 "2020-01-24T15:39:04Z")
It really comes down to balancing and fairness to all players. This one upset the balance and needed rework. However long term the risk vs reward balance needs some tweaks that all players can agree on. 1. remove L3 and L4 missions from highsec completely so the new players have incentive to move on. 2. remove ore anoms, ice anoms, and anything beyond veldspar and scordite in HS 3. Incursions removed from HS 4. trig invasions and emerging conduits further reduce payouts in HS - have escalations to low and nullsec for the primo rewards This will allow the new players to get introduced to the game but incentivized to spread their wings into low and null and form lasting corp bonds and less solo play. Rebalancing is good and we want more players to stay and join game not quit. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/110 "2020-01-24T15:52:00Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > the reason why it happens is because highsec residents do not unite and advocate for their space. No, the reason why its happening is because CCP has the numbers on how much ISK people are making from these sites, and considers it too high. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/111 "2020-01-24T16:03:24Z")
> [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](#): > > To effectively survive nullsec, you have to join the blue donut and become an F1 monkey for a mega alliance. Essentially becoming a nullsec farmer instead of a hisec farmer. So really, what’s the difference? Well, no. There are plenty of NPC nullsec areas where large F1 fleets dont need to exist, all you need is a small response fleet for the occasional roamers. You just need to contact the local alliances, and ask them if its okay to join. And then theres providence, CVA who operate under NRDS. I dont know if they still exist, i think they do, but in that space, its NRDS and there arent huge fleets coming in, only the occasional 5-6 man fleets that roam and try to catch unsuspecting ratters/farmers. Nullsec is large. > [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](#): > > There seems to be two camps when it comes to this kind of issue. The “make hisec lucrative” and the “htfu and move out to nullsec”. No. Everything about this game is risk and reward. Its not simply “Htfu and move out to nullsec”, its “If you want better rewards, move out to nullsec”. Theres a difference. If you are a casual player who doesnt care about amassing billions, tens of billions of isk with relative ease and little effort, then hisec will be just fine for you. But the OP wants hisec to be a place where you can amass billions, tens, hundreds of billions of isk, with relative ease and little effort, while staying in hisec. This is contrary to risk/reward. This is contrary to the spirit of EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/112 "2020-01-24T16:06:22Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Just adapt “I dont want to adapt to the nerfs. Please change Hisec to make it easier to make tons of isk”. “Just adapt” The hypocrisy here is hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/113 "2020-01-24T16:18:39Z")
Thank you for addressing all my points. It’s posts and responses like these that I genuinely look forward to. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/114 "2020-01-24T16:27:06Z")
> It’s not hard to make the comparison when you share the same name and hit the same talking posts on every post you make. Not really I looked at his threads after people began comparing me to him and we are quite different ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/115 "2020-01-24T16:27:57Z")
> “I dont want to adapt to the nerfs. Please change Hisec to make it easier to make tons of isk”. > > “Just adapt” > > The hypocrisy here is hilarious. Not really, look how nullsec adapted to blackout, they complained and it was changed, highsec should do the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/116 "2020-01-24T16:29:00Z")
HS does not have that power…try again. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/117 "2020-01-24T16:29:31Z")
> This will allow the new players to get introduced to the game but incentivized to spread their wings into low and null and form lasting corp bonds and less solo play. No nerf low and nullsec, and get people to go to highsec. You bittervets just want to destroy highsec and hope your region gets more players, all that will cause is people to stay in highsec, get frustrated, and quit the game. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/118 "2020-01-24T16:29:53Z")
sure it does, what are you on about ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/119 "2020-01-24T16:30:28Z")
Who has that power? what are you on about ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/join-the-ingame-channel-highsec-lobby-and-help-make-a-better-highsec/213294/120 "2020-01-24T16:30:58Z")
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