# July Release - Strategic Cruisers

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414>\
**Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\
**Tags:** july, ships\
**Created:** [July 3, 2017, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414 "2017-07-03T11:21:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dior\_Ambraelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dior_ambraelle/32/393685_2.png) [@Dior\_Ambraelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dior_Ambraelle)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/794 "2017-07-18T09:53:24Z")

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Did you just find your new target?

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**Author:** ![Rek\_Seven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rek_seven/32/281864_2.png) [@Rek\_Seven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rek_Seven)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/795 "2017-07-18T09:56:32Z")

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Haha yeah and i just find it a little funny that the ships need officer modules to achieve a “fine” tank.

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**Author:** ![Frostys\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frostys_virpio/32/12703_2.png) [@Frostys\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frostys_Virpio)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/796 "2017-07-18T12:10:23Z")

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But we don’t know what this player consider “fine” so requiring purples might just be asking for too much out of a cruiser hull.

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**Author:** ![Cristl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cristl/32/13387_2.png) [@Cristl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cristl)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/797 "2017-07-18T15:29:31Z")

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> [@Tremedus\_Synara](#):
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> From the dev blogs and discussions, I thought this was going to IMPROVE T3 Cruisers, not drastically reduce their capabilities!
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> Was their a reason for this nerf? Were there issues that came along with T3 Cruisers being too powerful for their intended class?

Erm, have you just come out of a coma? Yes, mate, T3Cs have been too powerful for quite some time now.

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**Author:** ![C4STA\_Gamer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/c4sta_gamer/32/8988_2.png) [@C4STA\_Gamer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/C4STA_Gamer)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/798 "2017-07-19T10:50:23Z")

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Hello, i have one little question…after this rebalance T3Cs now will be able to enter a 4/10 DED Complex?

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/799 "2017-07-19T11:37:26Z")

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Check the dev posts. Fozzie has already answered that question.

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**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/800 "2017-07-19T11:50:04Z")

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Which dev blog?

Did he answer it in this post? Or the one linked in the OP [https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/strategic-cruisers-and-you/](https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/strategic-cruisers-and-you/) ?

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/801 "2017-07-19T11:59:12Z")

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Dev posts in this thread.

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/802 "2017-07-19T13:12:29Z")

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> [@C4STA\_Gamer](#):
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> Hello, i have one little question…after this rebalance T3Cs now will be able to enter a 4/10 DED Complex?

There’s been no change to gate access.

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**Author:** ![Vardec\_Crom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vardec_crom/32/9336_2.png) [@Vardec\_Crom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vardec_Crom)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/803 "2017-07-20T20:47:31Z")

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With the reduction in native resists, and the loss of a low slot, I can’t solo 9/10 or 10/10 anymore, even with 2 bil in mods and implants. RIP EVE, it was fun while it lasted.

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**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/804 "2017-07-20T23:05:15Z")

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Where, on the **_offensive - drone synthesis projector_** is the drone bay located?

From the look of the subsystem, it is located at the rear and underneath of the hull, but is missing the blue coloured atmospheric containment field common on most drone ships.

It would be pretty easy to fix this surely. All you need to do is add one.

It would fit quite neatly inside the protruding recess and in front of what looks like a hangar door/doors.

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**Author:** ![Starrakatt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starrakatt/32/384322_2.png) [@Starrakatt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starrakatt)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/805 "2017-07-21T07:39:15Z")

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I can run a 10/10 in a Mach without implants.

Adapt?

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**Author:** ![Yion\_Free](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yion_free/32/4898_2.png) [@Yion\_Free](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yion_Free)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/806 "2017-07-21T10:10:59Z")

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no he rather quits the game because he “cant” run 9/10 and 10/10 anymore 😜

has someone a way / link / document to see top 10-30 killing ships for every month or the last 30 days? that would be so fun to look at 😉

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/807 "2017-07-21T10:36:47Z")

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Not quite. It would be a huge amount of data to pull in order to extend what zkillboard already summarises.

You can see the top 11 ships for the last 7 days on the zkillboard homepage:

> **[zkillboard.com / Home](https://zkillboard.com/)**
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> zkillboard.com is a killboard for the Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG) EVE-Online.

Loki has gone to the #1 spot (note: zkill doesn’t rate purely on kills) for the first time ever.

If you wanted more detail, then you could loop through the typeIDs and feed them to the zkillboard stats api to pull the monthly values for each ship and then process the stats data. It would take a while to make the requests (and probably not all that kind to zkillboard to do).

Would be modifying this url with each shiptype:

[https://zkillboard.com/api/stats/shipTypeID/29990/](https://zkillboard.com/api/stats/shipTypeID/29990/) (this one pulls for the Loki)

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**Author:** ![Darrien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darrien/32/244001_2.png) [@Darrien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darrien)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/808 "2017-07-21T14:55:36Z")

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Fozzie said he may look at it, but as it stands now while T3’s are not what they where, there still to probably a bit too efficient at 4/10’s.

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**Author:** ![Frostys\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frostys_virpio/32/12703_2.png) [@Frostys\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frostys_Virpio)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/809 "2017-07-21T15:01:11Z")

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But he want to run it in a cruiser because :reasons:.

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**Author:** ![Magosian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magosian/32/55735_2.png) [@Magosian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magosian)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/810 "2017-07-21T17:19:51Z")

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I realize I’m a week late on this, but I can’t think of anywhere else to mention it.

I never received the skill point refund from the removal of the electronic subsystems skills. I DID receive the 30 mil ISK reimbursement for what I assume was the cost of the skillbooks (from a “GM Bank of EVE” account, or something like that).

Anyhow, I was wondering if this is a known issue? I opened a support ticket about it last night, and it hasn’t received a single update from anyone at CCP, and I searched various dev blogs, patch notes, and here on the forums, but I couldn’t find a thing.

Has anyone else witnessed or heard of others experiencing this issue? What can I do beyond opening a support ticket?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Lebowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_lebowski/32/191402_2.png) [@CCP\_Lebowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/811 "2017-07-21T17:32:07Z")

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You did the right thing, our CS department will get back to you on that 🙂

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**Author:** ![Magosian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magosian/32/55735_2.png) [@Magosian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magosian)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/812 "2017-07-21T17:36:34Z")

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> You did the right thing, our CS department will get back to you on that 🙂

Ok cool. I just want to be clear that this was more about looking for a possible widespread issue I may have missed, rather than bitching about “I need my problem fixed now!!11!!@”

If this isn’t a widespread thing, then I’ll keep an eye on the support ticket. Thanks for the response 🙂

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**Author:** ![Troubled\_Basterd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/troubled_basterd/32/430387_2.png) [@Troubled\_Basterd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Troubled_Basterd)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/july-release-strategic-cruisers/8414/813 "2017-07-21T20:54:13Z")

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I realy like the ‘remapping’ of the subs. I have all the subs i dont need double (-\_-)

couldn’t just one of them be a covert sub?!

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